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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    So you are blaming Israel for the murders committed by Hamas against these civilians.

    Got it.
     
  2. Salvy

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    FBI is too busy getting Trump out of the 2024 election thou...
     
  3. justtxyank

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    Don't be a doofus.

    I'm saying it's ridiculous that the first reaction of Republicans is to say Biden's policies, in America, are what allowed the attack to happen.

    Biden doesn't control the Iron Dome, the Israeli intelligence agencies, the positioning of IDF divisions, etc.

    It's so tiring that everytime anything bad happens in the world we have to pretend that it's all about something happening in America.

    If there was an intelligence failure, a policy failure, etc. the first place to analyze should be Israel, not the United States. We aren't in charge of Israeli security.
     
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  4. AroundTheWorld

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    You did just blame Israel though. Classic victim blaming.

    It's normal that events with global impact are traced back to action or inaction of the US, whether that is true or done for partisan reasons. You conveniently forgot the posts where people tried to pin this on Trump, so it's not like only one side does it.

    Doesn't change anything about the fact that the main blame for what is happening lies with Hamas and its backers and supporters.
     
  5. tallanvor

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    i can't tell if this is sarcasm or not
     
  6. rocketsjudoka

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    So then do you believe the FBI should be defunded?
     
  7. Salvy

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    We all know it was Trump who told someone who told someone else who knows a Russian guy who knows another guy that is closely related to Russian intel that told Russia that then Russia told Habas...
     
  8. cwebbster

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    When the hell will America take a look in the damn mirror and realize they have directly and indirectly contributed to all of this? We created Osama Bin Laden. We helped create ISIS. We have helped rejuvenate Hamas and possibly Hezbollah too. We helped bring the Taliban back to power virtually overnight. We also continue to blindly support Israel because the Bible tells us to do it, even though those snakes would turn on us at the drop of a hat, all the while pissing off the entire region.

    This is frustrating to see. Heartbreaking! Our World Policing policies for 70+ years have done nothing to help advance peace in the world. Sorry, not sorry.
     
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  9. justtxyank

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    No, I'm not blaming Israel. I'm saying blaming America is stupid AF.

    It's weird, you are outraged to think I'm blaming Israel (which I'm not) and in your next section say it's all Hamas, but you aren't going after the dumbos blaming Biden and America.

    100% the blame is on Hamas, which is a terrorist organization.
     
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  10. Salvy

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    No, I believe the FBI should start going after real criminals.
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

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    Well, you are not going after the dumbos who blame Trump.
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    On another note, the UN are a joke, and Trump was actually right about leaving the UN.

    They held a moment of silence AGAINST Israel, and shamefully, the German representative participated. It's insane.
     
  13. tallanvor

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    ok this isn't sarcasm apparently. what is it you feel Isreal did to justify beheading babies, executing the elderly on camera then sending the video of it to the families, executing husbands then raping the wives and executing them too?

    lots of countries have disputes over land: Ukraine/Russia, China/Hong Kong, India/Pakistan, Azerbaijan/Armenia but none of these countries do what these animals do. Nor do the Israelis. These are the worst human beings in the world.
     
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    There is no justification. You are only trying to analyze this through some normative framework of what people ought to do rather than analyzing what happens to a group of humans when you make them stateless and cage them in like animals for decades?


    I want to ask you this question.

    Was the violence committed by the ANC the bigger problem or the Aparthied state?

    What Israel has done is dehumanize millions of people in a confined space for decades and this is the result. This isn't me making any moral claims I'm just stating what is the human condition.

    The issue here is that you simply just don't place the same value of life towards Palestine than Israelis? Why? Because you see a group that has 5 times fewer civilians casualties in the past two decades as the victims and not the group with five times more civilian casualties.
     
  15. justtxyank

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    Nothing. Israel didn't deserve this. That is not at all what I was talking about.

    This wasn't a comment on provocation.
     
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    So you think Israel is the sole reason for these Palestinians stuck in Gaza? Israel is the only nation over there dehuminaizing millions of people? LOL.

    Sheesh you are blind to reality. Palestine doesn't even want them. Nobody in the Arab world wants them. There is a reason for that. They create problems wherever they go. Countries have taken some of them in the past and all they did was create rebellions. Try harder.
     
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    This imagery is overwhelming me and is barbaric.
     
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    Good lord. You are well and truly an idiot. Your only “saving grace” is that you aren’t the only one saying the same crap.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    Our economy benefits when people buy weapons from our military industrial complex.

    War is good business for the USA.

    As for HAMAS beheading, they think it is a deterrent when in fact it is an accelerant - it will only get more Palastinians killed, maybe even millions.


    DD
     
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