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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    I, too, have a point!


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    And no one is claiming otherwise except that one crazy dude @Exiled
     
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    We all know you don't have a point get out of here! Lol
     
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  5. rocketsjudoka

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    And again MLK firmly said he was against violence and put those into actions.

    I don't believe you are pro-civilian murder but I believe you rationalize it through ideological lens. I think you further romanticize the struggle of oppressed people while downplaying the fear of those who suffer from them. I think this is why you're so dismissive of small business owners who's businesses were destroyed in rioting and instead of just acknowledging there is good reason for Israelis to be fearful you jumped to how easy it would be for them to move.

    Can you simply state that violence towards civilians is wrong without rationalizing it through "normative analysis"?

    And yes I agree that international pressure should be brought to end the conflict. Just rationalizing Hamas' actions though will have the opposite effect.
     
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  6. rocketsjudoka

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    Both you and @ROXRAN are making my point. How there is little interests actually for peace even from those who aren't directly involved in the conflict.

    It's just easier to pick your ideological side.
     
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    Don't turn things around. Hamas are the attackers.
     
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    This is horrible.
     
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    Or she's Jewish.
     
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    It just proves once again how evil they are. Whoever takes their side or is trying to argue moral equivalency here is dead wrong.
     
  11. Kevooooo

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    Except Hamas (and every preceding Palestinian terror group) deliberately targets civilians…they don’t bomb military vehicles. They target busses. They target music festivals.

    and this is their MO. It didn’t start with Hamas, they’re just the latest flavor. Someone said they did no favors for the Palestinian people w these attacks. No ****. But they never have. Arafat did the same. He was flying first class around the world and using Lebanon as a proxy while his people were suffering. Millions and millions in funds to help Palestinians were stolen over the years by Palestinian leaders all so they could continue the front of this so called “oppression.” When you attack your neighbor for 60 years and refuse to even acknowledge their right to exist — you’re going to be treated like a threat.



    If Palestinians wanted peace they would have thrown out hamas years ago. But they, according to polls, still overwhelmingly support them. I don’t think they’ve had an election since Fatah was kicked out but I don’t pay as much attention to the region as I once did.
     
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    Israel is taking the gloves off, no more warning rocket shots to buildings before the kill shot. Congrats to Hamas and their puppet masters. They bring death to the Palestinians and they will love them for it.
     
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    It's fascinating how many Americans are completely naive about how Hamas came into power. They only won in 2006 by a merely 3%. The only reason Gaza had an election was because of Bush. They thought once hamas had to govern they would become more moderate lol

    Why are Americans so illiterate
     
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    Sadly, there are too many entrenched liberal 20 something’s who were raised on this idea that Israel is horribly evil and the Palestinians have done nothing wrong.
     
  15. rocketsjudoka

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    What Hamas did will lead to the deaths of thousands of Gazans. It will not bring peace to Israel.

    Israel has engaged in collective punishment of Palestinians for decades. It has invaded Gaza and the West Bank many times. It has already killed thousands of Palestinians. As this weekend shown it hasn't made them safer.
     
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    Right it's always the liberals who are fault lol. Israel has the most right wing government in history and they refused to listen to intelligence showing an attack was imminent but yes its the liberals who are at fault lOl
     
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    Lmao son. Don’t even play that game. Not only do I have a degree in Mid East Studies, I am the descendent of two assassinated politicians of Lebanon. And nothing about what you just said excuses the continued support for Hamas.
     
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    ?? I'm Jordanian. I don't give a **** what you have a degree on. To claim that Palestinians can somehow kick out hamas shows how r****ded you are.

    Hamas came into power because of George Bush. That's a fact. They won by measly 3 points
     
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    Why have they done this? Could it be because Palestinians continue to support terror organizations that use civilians as cannon fodder? They destroyed Lebanon. They destroyed the West Bank. They destroyed Gaza. They hide their weapons in schools. They tell their citizens to ignore Israeli air raid warnings. And they deliberately target civilians.
    ****. Them.
     
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    Why have they done this? Could it be because Palestinians continue to support terror organizations that use civilians as cannon fodder? They destroyed Lebanon. They destroyed the West Bank. They destroyed Gaza. They hide their weapons in schools. They tell their citizens to ignore Israeli air raid warnings. And they deliberately target civilians.
    ****. Them.
    Welcome to ignore dipshit.
     
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