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[Official} ALDS Twins vs. Astros

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. YOLO

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    ironic this is the logic you're trying to latch on. He was offered less job security in years and less money. That's all that matters. It's well known the stros don't give out extremely long term deals with big money. That's old news. But that doesn't work for everyone nor should it. It's not pocket change to you bc you're broke relative to it

    So why are you supporting FVV? Everything we've heard he's showing hes a great leader in the rockets locker room and on the floor

    Must feel great to know he left bc the rockets gave him max money. but but but you can't be a great leader if you left to get paid :rolleyes:
     
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  2. Htown Stros

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    So Tom Brady didn't take significantly less money all those years with NE? Have you seen Jose Ramirez's contract with the Guardians?

    Correa was all about getting paid. Didn't care by which team or where he went. And that's fine, that is his right and most athletes go that route.
     
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    Javier needs to match Grey for 3-4 innings and then put in France for 2-3 and then close it out with Neris, Abreu, Pressley
     
  4. YOLO

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    what generation was NE? Certainly wasn't the modern era.

    Have you kept up with the modern era of the NFL today? Might want to check out the lack of loyalty from both sides of the ball all across the league. NFL is a terrible example. Position players are replaced and switched around year after year
     
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  5. Htown Stros

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    Nice of you to just ignore Jose Ramirez. Aaron Rodgers just took a pay cut this season then if you want a more modern example. Lebron James left millions on the table with Miami. So did Chris Bosh and Dwayne Wade. Hell even James Harden took a $14M pay cut last season.

    Might want to check your facts before you start arguing that no players do it anymore.
     
  6. YOLO

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    good for jose ramirez. do the stros give out long term big money deals like he has signed? Nope

    Aaron Rodgers? lol you mean the aaron rodgers that wanted to be traded from GB and you're trying to associate loyalty. lol

    you're attempt of examples are pretty shitty. might want to know wtf you're talking about before trying to give someone else advice

    oh james harden took a paycut? so him forcing his way out of houston doesn't mean anything? What about the nets? What about now philly who he hates? loyalty. but but he took a pay cut

    Lebron left millions on the table with Miami? How did he get there in the first place? Oh he was loyal to Cleveland apparently. Chris Bosh. you mean the Chris Bosh who left toronto who he was the face of the franchise at the time. excellent loyalty references

    gtfoh with these silly references of being loyal. None of these are even close. They're literally examples of how modern era loyalty doesn't exist in professional sports
     
  7. rockbox

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    So Verlander isn't a great leader. So Mookie is not a great leader. So when Ohtani leaves, he's not a great leader. Give me a F'ing break. Loyalty goes both ways. Teams need to pay market value to keep their stars.

    Twins are very happy with how things worked out. They got to keep Correa for a price they could afford.
     
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  8. Htown Stros

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    You keep shifting the goal posts to fit your stupid belief that every player always goes after the most money possible. What does the Astros giving out long term big money deals have to do with anything? Jose Ramirez took less money because he wanted to stay in Cleveland. If you think for a second the Astros wouldn't have been thrilled to get Jose Ramirez on a 7/$141M deal then you are a clown.

    And what are you talking about? Green Bay was ready to move on.

    Aaron Judge took less money to stay in NY. Another example for you.
     
  9. YOLO

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    shifting goal posts LOL. it's shifting goal posts to you because you tried to bring up some stupid ass examples that don't even come close to being valid

    Astros don't give out those contracts. lmao. you just started following the stros this season? sounds like it LOL you will never see the stros give out any of those deals that ramirez, judge got. You seem to be under this impression that the stros FO didn't make this well known. But since you are new to this, there's your news for the day.

    GB was ready to move on? ok. so that's loyalty. Rodgers ready to move on? ok. so that's loyalty.

    you sure have a funny way of understanding what loyalty means
     
  10. Htown Stros

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    Jose Ramirez and Aaron Judge examples aren't valid? You're a clown.

    Also, go back and read my responses. Reading comprehension clearly isn't a skill you possess. I never said anything about Correa's leadership, loyalty, etc. All I said was there have been MANY examples of players taking less money. Whether it be due to a better chance to win or stay in a city/team they are comfortable, it still happens.
     
  11. YOLO

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    who tf cares about less money. I don't. the topic was about loyalty and you replied to it.

    You don't know why? LMFAO. you literally replied to the post and bolded it LOL

    the irony of you talking about reading comprehension and you not knowing why I keep bringing up loyalty. Meanwhile not only do you reply to the post. you literally highlight the statement
     
  12. Salvy

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    He was offered less years because The Astros know he isn't worth what he wanted. He is constantly down and has serious health concerns for a long term contract. The Astros knew this and offered appropriately. He still tried to get the bag with The Giants knowing damn well the chances of him finishing out that contract healthy were slim. The Giants and Mets did not fall for it and neither did The Astros. The contract offered was not little despite who its relative to. If he has confidence in his long term health then sign the contract and revisit in 2-3 years of still getting paid a $hit ton of money.

    Like I said, he went after the bag so good for him. No hard feelings, lets just stop acting like he is out for revenge and like he is this outstanding leader. Morality and loyalty are part of great leaders.

    FVV has nothing to do with this, he was brought in to mentor and help the young future stars achieve max potential. He won't be here long, he won't be the star player or the leader. He is one piece in year 3 of a rebuild to get the team going. He won't be the "heart and soul" of the team.
     
  13. YOLO

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    he's offered less years because the stros don't give out massive long term deals. That's a fact. It's well known old news.

    who cares if hes out for revenge or not. he hasn't disrespected the stros. He never has and never will.

    FVV has nothing to do with it? oh the same logic you're b****ing about doesn't apply. Sounds about right

    No it definitely applies. just because its hypocrite to what you're trying to tell everyone doesn't make it untrue
     
  14. Htown Stros

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    Once again, you claim Tom Brady was a different generation (pretty debatable but don't see why that matters regardless) and then you ignore Jose Ramirez and Aaron Judge taking less money to stay with their teams because "the Astros don't give out big contracts", which has NOTHING to do with this argument.
     
  15. YOLO

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    you don't even know wtf you replied to so you're in no position to be telling anyone else anything.

    "i don't know why you keep bringing up loyalty"

    uhhhh because you literally replied to a post about it and bolded it in your response. when you get your brain to work try again
     
  16. Htown Stros

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    Great response lmao
     
  17. Salvy

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    Verlander is a good leader in the right system, check Detroit and New York. If anything, Verlander has rings thanks to Luhnow and Crane.

    Saying Twins got to keep Correa for what they could afford and are happy is equivalent to a man keeping his girl because his girl had some pretty big plans with a wealthier man but he decided to break it up last moment.... At the end of the day, Correa wanted a big market team and a big contract. He will continue to chase that. Lets see how The Twins fare off when the heart and soul of the team says bye...
     
  18. YOLO

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    gotta go down to your level and even then you're still lost
     
  19. Htown Stros

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    Yeah I got lost because I actually engaged in your stupidity actually arguing that Tom Brady and Jose Ramirez weren't examples. My bad.

    Edit: You really argued Tom Brady was a "different generation" when he was playing on the Patriots, on an extremely team friendly deal making less than he should have, all of FIVE years ago. LMAO
     
  20. YOLO

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    nah you lost yourself being so stupid and not even understanding the topic to begin with. you jumped in when nobody asked you and trying to apply the dumbest examples to follow
     

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