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This Teen Looting Trend

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by edwardc, Sep 27, 2023.

  1. ROXRAN

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    The best part that destroyed my eyes was 1:30 in the video :mad:
     
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  2. JuanValdez

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    We give domestic terrorists due process. o_O
     
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    Arm the security guards and police with tasers....and start tasing and arresting......TASER - and arrest.

    DD
     
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  5. rocketsjudoka

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    Many of these flash mob smash and grabs are clearly being organized. LE should be focusing on how they are being organized and who is doing it. My guess is through social media.
     
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  6. fchowd0311

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    Universal Pre-K

    Eliminating private health insurance

    Housing as a right etc

    These things matter more to stop this type of petty theft then having a domestic terrorism unit chasing these kids around.
     
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  7. rocketsjudoka

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    Do you know that the one's participating in these smash and grabs don't already have housing and health insurance? If they are poorer they probably already qualify for Medicaid.

    Also even with those still doesn't mean that petty crime wouldn't exist or that LE wouldn't be needed.

    Singapore has all of the above but in addition also aggressively goes after petty crime.
     
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  8. fchowd0311

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    Then move to Singapore.

    Look man, at a certain point we as a society have to introspection about being them most incarcerated population on the planet and still froth at the mouth about harsher enforcement after every damn anecdote of crime crosses our ears and eyes. It's a mental disorder shared in mass at this point. It's a social disease at this point.


    Why are we like this? Why are self labeled moderates in the US addicted to law and order?

    Do you want to up our 24% rate to 30%?
    Like when do we realize that we are just encouraging ever closer to a population that is majority incarcerated at some point in their lives? Is that a sustainable society?

    I don't know how many of these kids have access to healthcare and quality education. Maybe many of them do. Maybe many of them didn't for like a couple years gaps as with poorer people, coverage can be inconsistent dependent on month to month employment of their single mom where maybe they didn't have access for like a year as a 3 year old during prime development. So many factors to consider.
     
  9. JuanValdez

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    Thinking of deterrence, there's basically two variables presented to the would-be criminal: how harsh is the punishment and how likely is it you're caught. With these smash-and-grabs, the penalties are in place but the chance of getting caught is low. Folks frustrated with crime often reach for the easy button and say we need to increase the penalty to deter people. But criminals will not be deterred by harsher penalties if the chance of being caught remains low. So leave that side of the equation alone. What we need instead is to increase the chance of being caught. Punishments don't even need to be all that severe if the certainty of being caught is high. That will be more up front expense for the store owner for security and more resources spent by police, but in total it's cheaper than housing inmates on unreasonably long prison stays.
     
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    Some cities should adopt a Saudi Arabia rule for petty crime
     
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    Those are some extreme views and don’t really address the issue at hand. Universal pre-K wouldn’t have taught these dumbasses that they stole a bunch of paperweights.
     
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    I’m okay with giving the FBI the proper designation needed if they can look into the organizers on social media and go hard at the source. These are obviously coordinated with the classic gone in 60 seconds style of overwhelming in flash mob fashion.

    I also don’t see a political angle here other than large corporation targeting which is bipartisan based on what I see from the voter level. Call me if you see a Dem governor or congressman from a city like San Francisco giving speeches how we should take down corporations through petty theft.
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    Don't child development specialists and cognitive scientists state that the most important stage of brain development that most determines whether a person will be a mentally stable productive member of society is between the ages of 0-4?
     
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    Don't child development specialists and cognitive scientists state that the most important stage of brain development that most determines whether a person will be a mentally stable productive member of society is between the ages of 0-4?

    I was raised in a upper middle class suburban on Sugar Land attending one of the better school districts in the state.

    You know how many of my former high school friends and peers have been caught with petty theft? None. Because why would they?
     
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    I have always disliked looters. Especially after hurricanes. If I had a gun, I would shoot them little opportunists picking on folks after a disaster.
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    I mean this shows how little you value human life.
     
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    This is a recent phenomenon and a very specific problem. I get your passion for your beliefs about the underlying causes of hopelessness but this has nothing to do with that
     
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    we also need to eliminate the chance of just being let go.
     
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    public floggings would solve so much.
     
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