I’m sure they’ll do a good job but it will be disappointing if they don’t mention that other teams were looking for their own edge too. It would be like reporting about Barry Bonds while not mentioning that steroids were rampant throughout MLB.
that’s why I’m not worried about the episode. If you watch frontline like do it is fantastic journalism. A notch about 60 minutes and does timelines like no other show. Watch Their episode on Putin or the Opioid crisis and you see it’s fact based with tons of information, not emotional manipulation
Their episode on the Battle of Mogadishu is frankly better than Black Hawk Down eta: I vividly remember watching it the day it premiered. Was living back in Houston right after college, so still too poor for cable, and thus watched a lot of PBS. About 10 minutes into it, all of the sudden a familiar face is being interviewed. I immediately call my buddy "Are you watching PBS?" "YEAH" "That's MIKE!" "YEAH I ****ING KNOW" then we both simultaneously hang up. Dude had never spoken a word about being in the Army, much less being in the Rangers and there for all that s**t. Next time we were all at Maxwell's Pub there was pretty intense and emotional conversation about it.
I’m lumping PBS and Public Radio in the same boat. PBS news programming is overwhelming left of center. I’ll give you maybe not ultra left wing (at least the television part). Go to allsides.com that does a reasonable job of reviewing news outlets and their bias. Government should not use funds to support news organizations period.
I will add that the episode I mentioned earlier is my only experience with the innerworkings of a news program. Mike said they were meticulous about facts, they got all 6? of the guys who were interviewed to sign off on letting all the guys watch all their uncut and then edited interviews..."100% it needed to be told like it happened, not to make anybody look good" was 1 thing I remember him saying. "They told it like we told them" was another. Mark Bowden, the author of Black Hawk Down, was involved and the guys trusted him, so that helped. Some stuff came out later wrt one of the guys profiting on speaking tours and such, and that didn't sit too well. Thus endeth my spiel about Frontline.
I acknowledge that, just said that the government should not be sponsoring news programs since it can influence what news they report and the spin they put on it. Anyone that listens to NPR and believes it does not have a left wing agenda is lying to theirselves. PBS is not as far to the left, but certainly far left of center. Fox is far right of center, all the other major news outlets are left leaning. C-Span seems to be the only news source that is reliably un-biased. The biggest difference is that PBS and NPR receive funding from the national government which is dangerous to a free and un-biased media who are supposed to be their watchdogs.
The problem is the only other teams that were caught were basically reported as a nothing burger. Red Sox were punished but the public perception is they didn't do the same thing.
PBS is great. They have produced quality programming for decades. If the Astros are going to get a fair shot, it's more likely through Frontline. The thing is, the scandal *was* a scandal. The Astros got busted and deserved their punishment. We can't get away from that. I only take issue that the wider context is not often addressed in place of simplistic narratives. Let's hope that is included.
He says he wants to come back and Crane gives him another 1 year deal. I think it’s 50/50 regardless of what happens this season. Nook said it. I know a guy who knows a guy who said the same thing.
I don’t agree. I’m a teacher. If 15 kids in my class cheat on a test, and i just punish the one kid i dislike, i don’t think that’s fair or deserved. Either I punish all of them or none of them
That may be the fair way to do it, but not how the real world works. Now let's say your school relied on private funding from donors. If word got out that a large percentage of the students were cheating and it could effect the reputation of the school and donations and maybe even ruin the school. Now if cheating became public knowledge, then the administration would be tempted to hide what they could and report that it was isolated. The student who was publicly outed gets harshly punished so the donors think it's isolated and the school itself is good. Then they hide and downplay as much of the cheating by other students as possible to keep the money coming in. Life isn't a classroom, or fair.
Looking forward to it. I don't think it's going to be a hit piece. Frontline is one of my favorite shows on PBS (along with The Daytripper) and they tend to rely on hard facts more than any agenda. Who knows....you might learn something.
Right, there was nothing deserved about the punishment. People who try to spin it as if the astros got what they deserved are ignorant morons, nothing more. The post I responded to was idiotic, hence the reply
15 billionaire’s kids cheat in your class and it is about to come out nationally…you’d better believe that the school is going to feel pressure to get the kids out of trouble, or at the very least, pin the blame on just the one who is so good they can weather the cheater badge for the rest of their career anyway.
The Red Sox and Yankees were caught and punished for using technology to steal signs. Those teams did not get more serious penalties like the Astros did because nobody from the other teams talked, named names and connected the cheating dots. It may be unfair, but it's not a conspiracy to only punish Houston. Blame Mike Fiers.
Dredging up a years old story and timing it to come out during the play-offs is exactly what I would expect from PBS.
