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The state of the republican party

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 21, 2021.

  1. Reeko

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    they’ll be coming for interracial marriage next

    it’s always been so pathetic to me why anyone would give a single fck about 2 gay people getting married…they’re not affecting u in any way, mind your damn business and worry about your own life
     
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    I don’t see how this is anymore than virtue signaling as the Obergfell already legalized it nationwide.
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    I’m sure there are some who would but that might be a problem considering Clarence Thomas’ marriage.

    Then again consistency isn’t a strong suit of the modern Right Wing.
     
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    Goebbels must be spinning in his spitroast on hell at all the swag he's missing.

    Like Dr. J not getting a single whiff of that post-MJ NBA money.
     
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  6. NewRoxFan

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    This is the republican candidate for president...

     
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    Clarence Thomas invited challenges to Obergefell in his Dobbs dissent. This is the type of unpopular legislation explicitly designed for a Supreme Court challenge, not actual governance.
     
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  8. NewRoxFan

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    Because party before country...

     
  9. NewRoxFan

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    Liberal newt gingrich...

     
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    What in the world? Some right-wing reporter bothers a woman off the bus and then claims he is the victim? This guy isn't whining enough about getting ignored by the WH press secretary so he has to take him victim routine to the streets...

     
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    Found Salvy
     
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    Cassidy Hutchinson Refuses to Respond to Donald Trump’s Insults: ‘Being Ignored Drives Him Mad’ (Exclusive) (yahoo.com)

    In an exclusive excerpt from Hutchinson's new memoir, Enough, she describes the immediate backlash that followed her testimony, when Trump loyalists — many of whom she considered friends — turned their backs on her, and the former president unleashed his ire.

    "The pushback from Trump defenders is picking up speed, the attacks led by Trump himself, whose insults are getting cruder," she remembers in the excerpt. "I tried to mentally prepare for breaking with Trump World. I know how they curate vile attacks on their detractors. I was once part of that process."

    "I learn how it feels to be on the other side. But I know enough not to react. That's what he wants me to do. He wants me to be defensive. He wants to know when he’s hurt someone or gotten a rise out of them; he wants to project his hurt onto the source of it." "Trump doesn’t care if you dispute him or call him a liar. Only silence bothers him. Being ignored drives him mad."

    "There's been a dramatic shift in Republican politics, where the vitriol and rhetoric that he has amplified has become normalized. And violence isn't just talked about, but it's encouraged," she says.

    "This is a critical moment for us to be able to educate people, and that's sort of how I see my role right now: having constructive and difficult conversations with Republicans and with Democrats about how we all need to come together," she says. "The proliferation of lies and disinformation has to stop at some point. We have to say, Enough."
     
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    The Patriot: How Mark Milley Held the Line - The Atlantic
    How General Mark Milley protected the Constitution from Donald Trump
    By Jeffrey Goldberg

    In normal times, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the principal military adviser to the president, is supposed to focus his attention on America’s national-security challenges, and on the readiness and lethality of its armed forces. But the first 16 months of Milley’s term, a period that ended when Joe Biden succeeded Donald Trump as president, were not normal, because Trump was exceptionally unfit to serve. “For more than 200 years, the assumption in this country was that we would have a stable person as president,” one of Milley’s mentors, the retired three-star general James Dubik, told me. That this assumption did not hold true during the Trump administration presented a “unique challenge” for Milley, Dubik said.

    Milley was careful to refrain from commenting publicly on Trump’s cognitive unfitness and moral derangement. In interviews, he would say that it is not the place of the nation’s flag officers to discuss the performance of the nation’s civilian leaders.

    But his views emerged in a number of books published after Trump left office, written by authors who had spoken with Milley, and many other civilian and military officials, on background. In The Divider, Peter Baker and Susan Glasser write that Milley believed that Trump was “shameful,” and “complicit” in the January 6 attack. They also reported that Milley feared that Trump’s “ ‘Hitler-like’ embrace of the big lie about the election would prompt the president to seek out a ‘Reichstag moment.’ ”

    These views of Trump align with those of many officials who served in his administration. Trump’s first secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, considered Trump to be a “****ing moron.” John Kelly, the retired Marine general who served as Trump’s chief of staff in 2017 and 2018, has said that Trump is the “most flawed person” he’s ever met. James Mattis, who is also a retired Marine general and served as Trump’s first secretary of defense, has told friends and colleagues that the 45th president was “more dangerous than anyone could ever imagine.” It is widely known that Trump’s second secretary of defense, Mark Esper, believed that the president didn’t understand his own duties, much less the oath that officers swear to the Constitution, or military ethics, or the history of America.

    Twenty men have served as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs since the position was created after World War II. Until Milley, none had been forced to confront the possibility that a president would try to foment or provoke a coup in order to illegally remain in office. A plain reading of the record shows that in the chaotic period before and after the 2020 election, Milley did as much as, or more than, any other American to defend the constitutional order, to prevent the military from being deployed against the American people, and to forestall the eruption of wars with America’s nuclear-armed adversaries. Along the way, Milley deflected Trump’s exhortations to have the U.S. military ignore, and even on occasion commit, war crimes. Milley and other military officers deserve praise for protecting democracy, but their actions should also cause deep unease. In the American system, it is the voters, the courts, and Congress that are meant to serve as checks on a president’s behavior, not the generals. Civilians provide direction, funding, and oversight; the military then follows lawful orders.

    The difficulty of the task before Milley was captured most succinctly by Lieutenant General H. R. McMaster, the second of Trump’s four national security advisers. “As chairman, you swear to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, but what if the commander in chief is undermining the Constitution?” McMaster said to me.

    For the actions he took in the last months of the Trump presidency, Milley, whose four-year term as chairman, and 43-year career as an Army officer, will conclude at the end of September, has been condemned by elements of the far right. Kash Patel, whom Trump installed in a senior Pentagon role in the final days of his administration, refers to Milley as “the Kraken of the swamp.” Trump himself has accused Milley of treason. Sebastian Gorka, a former Trump White House official, has said that Milley deserves to be placed in “shackles and leg irons.” If a second Trump administration were to attempt this, however, the Trumpist faction would be opposed by the large group of ex-Trump-administration officials who believe that the former president continues to pose a unique threat to American democracy, and who believe that Milley is a hero for what he did to protect the country and the Constitution.

    “Mark Milley had to contain the impulses of people who wanted to use the United States military in very dangerous ways,” Kelly told me. “Mark had a very, very difficult reality to deal with in his first two years as chairman, and he served honorably and well. The president couldn’t fathom people who served their nation honorably.” Kelly, along with other former administration officials, has argued that Trump has a contemptuous view of the military, and that this contempt made it extraordinarily difficult to explain to Trump such concepts as honor, sacrifice, and duty.

    Robert Gates, who served as secretary of defense under Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, told me that no Joint Chiefs chairman has ever been tested in the manner Milley was. “General Milley has done an extraordinary job under the most extraordinary of circumstances,” Gates said. “I’ve worked for eight presidents, and not even Lyndon Johnson or Richard Nixon in their angriest moments would have considered doing or saying some of the things that were said between the election and January 6.”

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    I know it's a rhetorical question, but I'm confident they are not as stupid as they will get in the years ahead, before it all falls apart.
     
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    I think about it all the time, I am so so close to just saying '**** it', selling out and bailing out.
     
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    At one point this maria was a respected financial markets reporter...

     

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