That's not a claim I ever made. What I've said is that Biden can't do the things that you think he can easily. He can't end the war unilaterally and he certainly can't bring down gas prices unilaterally nor is there any guarantee that ending the war brings down gas prices in time for the election. Further aren't you the one who frequently says that the US electorate isn't too bright? Because Zelensky has no trust towards Putin and for good reason given how many times Putin has broken his word. Yes Russia isn't doing great. They can call for a ceasefire yet they are showing no interest in doing so.
I like how you accuse others of being disengenious yet you're setting up a strawman that I've never argued. My argument is that there is no interest in either side to make peace now. Biden cannot simply on his own make peace nor can he even on his own simply withhold aid. Recall the last President was impeached for slow walking aid to Ukraine. We've supported some countries for more than 70 years now so it is more than possible for the US to provide support for a long time. I'm not saying we should or that would be right. I'm saying that the situation now it would be a bad idea and not really that feasible for Biden to simply stop aid in the hope that gas prices come down. Peace in Ukraine will be a very difficult process. We're not even at the earliest steps of that of geting the combatants to agree to even preliminary steps. That's speculative that either Trump will win or he will control both houses of Congress. Even if he does it will be by narrow majorities. Keep in mind that Trump didn't get his way even with a Republican Congress. He didn't get wall funding and some of his legislative achievenments (criminal justice reform, revamped NAFTA) were passed with Democratic help. We have no idea now what the make up of Congess will be two years from now. You're just heaping speculation on speculation. Yes because Ukraine is on their border and they have a long history of being fearful of Russia. Support for Ukraine doens' have to do with "woke" issues as many Conservative Republicans also support it. Unless you like several other posters believe everything has to do with Wokeness. No one is happy with $4 dollar gas but it's lala land to believe that this can be addressed quickly and that Biden can force a peace. You like to argue that everyone else isn't using their brain yet you continue to ignore several factors of why what you propose isn't as simple as you make it out to be.
Wicker is a ranking member of the Senate’s Armed Services Committee and very well known for his controversial positions on a host of issues. As an example, Ensign, he’s known as the only senator to vote against the resolution that climate change is real, for constantly working against Roe v. Wade, his support of Israel, his fight against the Affordable Care Act, being the “poorest” member of the Senate, possibly Congress (and no joke). All things you should be aware of. Susan Collins? Never heard of her? I’m shocked. Tom Cotton? A 48 year old former Army Ranger who served in Iraq during Bush Junior’s war and well known rabid right-wing Republican. You really are tiresome. You aren’t the only one.
Oil is $90, it was $77 on 12/31/21. The war has affected the price but not enough to base decisions like support for Ukraine on it OPEC is a bigger culprit in the current price Other countries are still buying Russian oil
You dont understand how oil is traded. Oil is traded on the futures market. The reason why oil was going up leading up the war was because we were warning the public about a impending invasion which traders pushed the price of oil up. Again oil is not the primary issue but refinery capacity is. We cant just build a new refinery overnight. When we took the Russian refineries offline it caused a huge shortage of refined gasoline which is why gas is more expensive today than previously with similar crude prices.
Thank God the administration isn't hijacked by neocons. Finding a peaceful resolution before the next election is more important than anything else. @rocketsjudoka you push peace by doing things like this. It's a reality check for Kyiv. Push for peace and secure your territory before the racist facist demagogue is on the ballot. Nobody here can convince me that Putin is a bigger threat than Trump. Turn off the propoganda
The May 30 2023 price of oil was $70. I understand your point about refining capacity but refineries have had issues this summer due to the heat
Elections are right around the corner in Poland and the new right wing government is the most right wing in all of Europe. It literally wants to put gay people on a monitoring list and is very questionable about UKRn @rocketsjudoka folks don't comprehend the amount of despair and anger in Europe. Asking folks to pay insane amounts for energy for years without no end in sight is delusional. Folks will always turn to facism That's why biden refusing to supply long range missles today is a big deal. It shows the UKR they gotta accept reality and make peace
I keep hearing the phrase “ make peace”. There will be no peace. There might be a temporary deal to stop direct conflict but there will not be peace. Russia will continue to maneuver and jockey for control. Russia has to have a significant change of leadership and ideology, and that will take generations… and a good ole fashion butt kicking helps too
huh? If we give Ukraine iron clad security assurances like setting up a permanent outpost or base for the military how would that not be peace? Russia isnt attacking Ukraine with US troops in the country. Not in a million years You know he was literally never joining NATO right? Biden literally rejected him at the NATO summit and said they have to root out corruption first. Stop listening to right wing podcasts all day Duda is 100% right. Folks in this thread dont realize that Zelensky is the quickest way to bring back Trump. Seems like alot of posters in this thread have no issue with that even though in other threads they claim Trump is a monster. @rocketsjudoka hopefully you see this video.
I'm having trouble seeing the tweet so can't respond to it directly. That said there is nothing wrong with saying that Kyiv shoudl talk to Putin. I will repeat again though neither side appears to want to talk and trying to use the threat of taking away aid from Ukraine isn't something as simple as Biden just saying we shouldn't get aid. Also yes Trump is dangerous. That said even at his worst Trump didn't invade a sovereign nation and for all the talk of Trump having the nuclear button there still are many controls on the US President regarding use of force that the Russian President doesn't have.
I was also thinking about this that there is another danger regarding tryign to force an end to the war by removing aid to Ukraine and hoping gas prices come down. One of the big strategic interests to aiding Ukraine is that it sends a message to the PRC and other countries that might have aspirations to invade their neighbors. Indirectly helping Ukraine is also helping Taiwan. PRC propaganda has long been that in a war with the US the Chinese can deal with more hardship than the US. What they call "eat bitter". Their view is that the US population is soft and once a war actually started materially affected them they would give up. If we decide to not help Ukraine because it's keeping gas prices high that would be a strong indication that the US populace can't handle even a conflict where we're not sacrificing troops but suffering economic inconveniance. That would indicated to the PRC that all they need to do is cause some economic harm and the US will back down. In the case of Taiwan they could seriously disrupt global supply chains and take other steps that cause high inflation and other pains to the US consumer to convince the US not to help Taiwan. They could make the exact argument here that for a President facing election they will lose if inflation is high so they should compel Taiwan to make concessions to the PRC so prices can come down and the President can win reelection. To put it bluntly appease to stop economic blackmail.
The video supports my point though that the US cannot simply offer NATO membership to Ukraine in exchange for a ceasefire. You're the one talking about security guarantees and even posting US troops in Ukraine. How popular do you think that will be given we just got out having US troops in a war zone for more than 20 years?
It's obviously not ideal but at the moment the current situation of us materially supporting Ukraine but not committing US forces to the war zone is the best at the moment. As noted on this very page offering Ukraine NATO membership is unrealistic. Giving Ukraine another security guarantee that includes US troops will likely face a lot of resistance in COngress and among the US electorate. Compelling Ukraine to agree to a ceasefire and a peace treaty that leaves the country divided doesn't appear to appeal to either Ukraine or Russia. Any ceasefire under those terms there will be a very strong temptation for one side or other to break and there is a good possibility it just ends up back in war.
