Adam, we already made the decision for you. No it is not appropriate for KPJ to come to training camp or play basketball for the NBA.
Are you referring to this ancient instagram post? Your lack of reading comprehension is reaching dangerous levels.
Weirder stuff have happened in the Clown Show NBA. That is why Miles Bridges can play bball now. But you had Porter in cuffs all over the Globe - there is no way Porter has a positive image in the next 2 years. Or ever.
By your logic, we should just give serial killers meds and counseling and let them go because nobody with a sound mind would kill people for fun.
Yes it is. The rest of your post assumes a bunch of stuff you don't know anythign about, "well well, important men in suits blah blah blah business decision" Again, I'm callign bullshit on that. The likelihood the Rockets face any legal consequence from this piece of trash or the NBPA for cutting ties with KPJ now rather than later is infinitesimally tiny. I have a JD so you have to listen to me - internet argument won.
@fchowd0311 If you yourself or you have a friend or family member come to you and say... Hey i want to know if i should move in with this guy i met. I need a roommate. You say, well tell me a little bit about them. They say well, to start out he lost his little job in college because he did something so bad conduct wise they dismissed him. No longer wanted him around. Then he went on to get a real job paying good money and he felt disrespected because they moved his office so he physically and verbally attacked people and went nuts and threw things. Oh yeah, this happened when he was just coming back from mandated time away from the team because he was having so many out of office issues. But anyways after having him as an employee for just a year, despite the fact that they saw him as a potential top earning salesman, they decided he was potentially such a bad person and distraction they decided to get rid of him just like his college job did. Well fast forward. A new employer has all this previous information including knowing of an alleged assault on a previous woman. But they are in DESPERATE need of salesmen because their superstar seller just quit and took a bunch of good people with him. Desperation has to be the only reason they gave THAT guy a chance right? Well anyways, they hire him anyways. Because, again, they are desperate and think, well maybe we can rehabilitate this guy with this checkered past. Problem is, they have a soft manager who gets walked all over. So the first incident he has at this new job is after work him and some co workers go out to have drinks. They probably shouldn't have been there to begin with for several reasons, but whatever. Anyways a fight breaks out and this guy gets involved to reportedly save his co worker. No biggie i guess. Still, another physical altercation hes involved in. Fast forward a bit. In the MIDDLE of the workday one of the supervisors comes to him and lets him know they didnt like the way he filled out a form. You know what this mf did? He blew up, threw food at him and stormed out of the office and drove home. There were some other in office incidents where he reacted poorly as well. But hes a great guy and he seems really sweet. Your response is, sure go ahead. Move in with them. He has great potential. We cant read the future. A year later this guy doesnt like something his roomate does, so he attacks them and chokes the roomate and beats him bloody and maybe cracked the roomates verterbtae. And your response is, "there's no way we could have seen this coming. This is so far out of the realm of possible outcomes that theres no way we could have predicted something like this would happen. In fact, if the same situation happened again, id give the same advice to go ahead and move in with the person because we cant predict the future..........???
This reads very much on the nose that she is making sure that she wants to settle for the maximum amount that KPJ has to give. -Can give a statement to the police, and cooperate at any time and put his butt in jail -Doesn't want anything released because that information if not public, can be leverage in a settlement to get buried -Reports could have been wrong, but man would it be malpractice for the police to have misrepresented something like a broken vertebrae. Adam Silver's comments a bit ago too reflect the notion that Silver is seeing the same physical evidence that the police saw for him to use the phrase "horrific." She gets nothing out of KPJ going to jail. She gets a sh$t ton by him settling with her. I'm all for the abused getting what the justice they prefer. However I am not going to be okay if the NBA, and the Rockets try to pull a fast one on us if they do settle, and she refuses to cooperate in the prosecution, and KPJ is able to settle in a plea agreement. I cannot root for this guy, or the Rockets if he is on the team this or next year if they settle, and the NBA looks the other way. Won't do it.
Between her asking people not to speculate on KPJ, and Silver talking about training camp, I’m starting to think it’s not the story that came out Even if he hit her once out of self defense I’d still suspend him 40 games minimum
His contract is not even that lucrative compared to most players and he has to be like attending every day, hard to do with the court issues.....and stuff.
I think the vertebrae thing is confirmed, she just hated it that the doctors publicized it before she could consent to that. I do not think everything is made up, she just wants to save Porter's career for a reason.
Still not convincing me that people who defended KPJ before this incident are inherently worse judge of character than people who hated him before this. Some of the same people who judge moral character by finger nail polish who believe they are superior moral arbiters now because thrt "called it". I think it's an intellectually lazy understandinh of how people judge character. A lot of this is very much hindsight. A lot of people defending KPJ before understood he has the highest chance of some sort of volitie behavior relative to the rest of the roster but thought from a distance that he is becoming better at at controlling volitie outbursts in the sense they were becoming more rare and people no one here expects to be bad actors like Craig Ackerman saying he's one of them most pleasant players on the roster to be around. And I doubt any of his detractors sincerely thought his outbursts could be this severe. Not once did you see someone say this is a possible outcome. Rather just generic stuff like he is a locker room cancer and has a short fuse which are reasonable judgements also. If you want to be proud of being right all I ask is that it doesn't give you a false sense of security that you are somehow from here on our a superior arbiter of judging morals.
The PR damage is already done. CNN reporting it, Al Jazeera, all the Mexican papers......I think India also. Just Europe was silent.
Show me one civil suit in a domestic violence case that bankrupted a professional athlete. Didn't happen to Ray Rice. Hasn't happened to Miles Bridges. Based on Ms. Gondrezick's recent public response to the incident it sadly looks like there might not be a civil suit at all. EDIT: Adam Silver's a lawyer and look at the measured response he just put out. Doesn't have the facts, league and team will have time to investigate before the season starts. You must be a crappy lawyer with a hair trigger.
Either KPJ goes to jail/prison and the victim gets some sort of settlement from what is remaining of his estate, this will likely bankrupt him with attorney fees and a real settlement in the low 7 figure range. Or the couple is holding on to hope they can sweep this under the rug and he gets another shot at the NBA, at 23 he has about $250M+ in earnings potential if he is an above average NBA player for 12 seasons. The NBA investigation will likely figure out what happened w surveillance footage, but the couple may be trying to hold on to some hope. At the end of the day we are talking about a quarter billion dollars here, the ability to take care of their families and not have to worry about things the rest of their life, all parties involved have to be thinking about this, and regardless of what we think the outcome may be, they have to be holding on to the hope they are getting that $250M.
