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The NBA is a regional sport

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by VanityHalfBlack, Aug 29, 2023.

  1. roslolian

    roslolian Member

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    Based on what? You realize Euro MVP is only worth 7M in the NBA right?

    https://www.bcmegabasket.net/en/202...tvaranju-memorijalnog-turnira-stevan-jelovac/

    Overtime Elite only lost by 3 pts to Mega but half of Euroleague would demolish the Rockets? Talk about ignorance. Or you gonna argue Overtime Elite would beat the Rockets? Lmao.
     
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  2. roslolian

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    Truth is truth no matter who says it.
     
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    Truth is I believe Germany is the World Champ. You do not believe it.

    That is fine, I am not forcing you like you do to other people, lol, talking people into it never worked.

    I can agree to disagree.
     
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    Truth and I believe lol.

    Truth is truth no matter what people believe and the truth is NBA Champ is the world Champ.
     
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    The thing is I do not think World Champion tag is politically, or say, sport politically, geographically correct term.

    You want to have something every continent can agree to.

    But American eliticism and arrogancy dictate they have to use it.
     
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    It is the correct term if you think World Champion means best team in the world. The Olympic/Fiba team is inferior to the NBA Champ so they can't be the world champion.
     
  7. daywalker02

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    I do not. More underdogs have won title.

    The best of something can be seen differently from year to year also.

    It is subjective. The best on paper, .....Germany was also not the best team on paper before FIBA WC. Just one of 5 teams.

    Personally World Champion means nothing to me. But I would like it to be changed for other people who are more sensitive to it.

    Sports should bring people together and not divide them ....especially with a term like that.

    It is really just bringing people together for a banter and all accepting one term that feels right for all of them.
     
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  8. roslolian

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    Well it doesn't feel right to have a world champ that is weaker than another team in the world. Even the opponents Germany beat is weaker than the Lakers who the Nuggets swept.

    Beating a bunch of inferior opponents who can't even make it to the NBA doesn't mean anything. They can call themselves FIBA champion or Olympic champion or even World Cup champion but they can't call themselves world champion since multiple teams in the world are better than them, they're just too weak to reach the NBA.
     
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    I can also live with majority of the earth population think World Champ is okay, have a grand Poll.
     
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    It is not as clear, see, Euro teams are stronger in their environment, that is why it is so attractive to see US NBA players lose, they cannot cope with FIBA rules and FIBA court.

    So in Soccer it is very clear that there is no World Champ. (In German and some languages there is a word for World Champion different than English)

    But a World Cup champion. And a Premier League Champion who is the best in Club Football.

    Sometimes the Spanish La Liga Champion or the German League Champion is the best.
     
  11. roslolian

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    It is clear, who is the Goat? Does a Euroleague player even get mentioned? Even if you ask Europeans they won't say a Euroleaguer as the goat. Maybe not clear to you and other NBA haters here but it is clear for every objective person out there.

    US NBA players may lose but the NBA players never lose. Who is the last champion with no NBA player in the roster?

    Again I don't know about soccer but soccer is the world's most popular sport I'm guessing multiple leagues are pretty good unlike basketball where NBA is several levels over everyone else.
     
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    Like I said truth is truth doesn't matter what people think. Lots of flat earthers during Galileo's time but world is still round.

    And the NBA Champ is world champ no matter what people think simply because they are the best in the world. Beating PH, Angola and China national team doesn't change that. All the euro lovers can hold hands doesn't change the fact Nuggets will whoop every euro team's ass.

    Hell Lakers can do that too and they got swept by the Nuggets. Hell GSW can do that too and they got beat by Lakers.
     
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    bro the nba is a league. Fiba is a tournament. Come on bruh, you feel me? Basketball is fun, that’s all it matters yeah?
     
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    It is a semi tournament now with the In season tournament and the Playoffs being a special kind of series elimination ....

    His argument is whoever is the best talent should be the World Champ.

    It is not his decision to make.
     
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    Look, I lay it out for you. World Champ is just a lousy title for most of us Euros......but some do care.

    10 to 15 years ago nobody even thought about challenging this unofficial name tag because the Europeans did not have MVP stars.

    Now they have them, they are producing said stars like the best of them, now they care about that title.

    Good luck arguing with that shet ton of people!

    I am assuming you are not even American but standing up for American leagues lelz.
     
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    If people deem it reasonable and necessary, a sports committee will be tasked to announce whoever will hold the World Champion title.

    I do not deem it important but you obviously do @roslolian

    If you do not agree, nobody cares, it is really just sports politics, whoever holds power, gets to decide things.
     
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    You realize that there is a qualification for a world cup, right? Teams fight for the chance to enter the world cup. And these teams include the Philippines. If they would have won enough in their regional contests they would have played in the world cup. Thats the whole point. And thats why we ever so often have teams like Jamaica in a soccer world cup while teams like the Netherlands miss the world cup. Because there are upsets. Every country has the chance to compete in a world cup - if they get through the qualification.

    And whether best of 7 is best or not - why not best of 9 or best of 5 - that is up for debate. Would the Super Bowl be fairer, if they played 7 games? It is an arbitrary number. And in the end you don‘t want to just hand out a world title to the team, that spends the most (outside of the NBA there is no salary cap). Otherwise people might say in the future, that the champ of the saudi league are world champions… if it was purely academic about which team is best, it would be boring. We want to include stuff like teams that get on a run or get cold at key moments - we want players, that can be their best when the lights are brightest. We want players to grow into giants for single games to change the trajectory.
     
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    This World Champ tag thing is crooked.....NBA champs wanting to call themselves World Champs....maybe but it is really just incorrect term to use.

    They can call themselves the Best of the Best.....lol no need to include the rest of the World.
     
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    Soccer is a lot different than basketball. The top 30 soccer clubs in the world are all from different leagues and geographical areas, a few even from South America.

    The top 30 basketball teams in the world are all in the NBA.
     
  20. daywalker02

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    Then your understanding is incorrect. A real World Champ should be like the Soccer, with multiple nations contending......with multiple leagues being competitive.

    The NBA is a monopoly and not World Champion, it is a refinery or a factory that produces or signs the best players.

    It is a robotic, conveyor belt type of machinery but not competitive....

    Your understanding of being a World Champ is hoarding all resources to build a closed environment.

    Only those that are in that bubble competes with themselves.
     

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