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Kevin Porter Jr. arrested for domestic violence

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Sep 11, 2023.

  1. topfive

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    NOBODY is "cheering an all around tragic story," ya melt.

    I find it weird that you even see this as an opportunity to try to convince people that there's at least SOME level where you're not dead wrong.
     
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  2. Joe Rocket

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    Right this should not have been a hard decision. He wants to quit. Let him go.
     
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  3. daywalker02

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    Cutting would have been best, suspension would just result in seeing his GF more and I do not want to picture what happens.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Well at least you attempted to spin your dumb comment with this.

    What I said was accurate, no one actually "saw this coming"....they merely hoped something like this would happen and are now celebrating it.
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    Well it's good that you are at least aware enough to realize that you should lie about it. Quite a few are openly celebrating it.
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    "Cheering" is definitely the wrong terminology. The correct way to phrase it is "people are using this tragic story to prop up their egos"
     
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  7. Joe Rocket

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    First and foremost he was in an altercation with ANOTHER woman and he has been in other altercations with other people. This will be my last time replying to you. Im putting you on ignore. At this point youre a troll or mentally ill.
     
  8. AlperenSengun

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    The absurd thing is he had constant low-level problematic behavior(pouting, quitting plays) and sporadic big-level problematic behavior. These are red flags just by themselves. KPJ had both and still rockets gave all the credit, tolerance, opportunities to him to the extent to hurt the development of other players. And it still ended very tragically.

    Among the worst things he could possibly do, this had a low probability. But it was almost certain that he would do something to hurt the team to the extent that will make it obvious 'the kpj experiment' was a huge mistake.
     
  9. flamingdts

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    No one saw this coming, except for everyone that said KPJ is due for another incident, which you will find a plethora of examples of.

    But by all means, keep defending the abuser if you think this genuinely came out of nowhere. I'm sure, like many school shooter sympathizers, he was just a quiet kid in school that would never harm anyone.
     
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  10. daywalker02

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    My guy Alperen, how is it going.

    It was almost certain he would do something, but most of us would not be jubilant or celebrating.
     
  11. robbie380

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    There’s so much that can be said but looking back this really falls in the lap of Stone. The blow ups were known but the front office didn’t care and only rewarded KPJ.
     
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  12. Bobbythegreat

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    What you mean to say is that you were hoping there would be an incident, now that something happened, you want to celebrate the fact that it did.

    It's fine to just admit you are that type of person, it's not like it isn't obvious.

    Also, I know we don't have the best or brightest around here, but I never thought I'd have to spell out how criticizing absolute scumbags for their celebratory response to a tragic situation isn't in any way a defense for the assailant.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Ok, Joe, you need to calm your t***.....I never said what you are saying I liked KPJ's game that's it...your little crusade is a waste of time.....if you don't like me, fine - fair enough - not going to bother me at all......you are entitled to like or hate whomever you like. You accuse me of stuff yet don't bring receipts i have more than 100k posts on here, please post evidence or SHUT THE **** UP ! Seriously, I am a Rockets fan, regardless of race, weird being called a racist for supporting KPJ's talent....

    You are not entitled to put words in others mouths...I have said what KPJ did was horrible and he should be cut.

    What you are attempting to do, is to take conversation about what we EXPECT will happen and extrapolate it out as some sort of forgiveness etc....I don't forgive KPJ, I want him gone from my team.

    However, I am also able to separate fandom and have a discussion about the legality and what has happened in similar situations like Mason Greenwood....it doesn't mean I am an apologist, it just means as an intelligent human I can separate what I want vs, what reality tends to be.

    I am sorry you cannot.

    KPJ must go, he needs hard consequences - he has run his course as a Rocket, I am sad that his maturity never caught up to his talent, but no person should beat up a girl and be allowed to roam free - he should face the music and not as a Houston Rocket.

    DD
     
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  14. daywalker02

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    Lol, if you look at how flamingly bad the organization has become, you’ d better prop up your ego....

    but nah.....I see a lot of people distancing themselves from said Honcho, that is the way.

    You are just being paranoid.

    We all want the same thing, this fool out of the door.
     
  15. clutchdabear

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    for the people who keep riding on their high horse saying "no one could've seen this coming" and criticizing anyone who said this was bound to happen...

    "if ppl want to see the worst case scenario of what could've happened with javaris crittenton vs gil arenas... then sure, trade for kevin porter jr.
    i personally would rather not."

    "nah. it's more like "let's destroy our locker room and be the first team in nba history to have a player murder a teammate" type of thing."
    - Jan 19 2021

    this is what i posted as soon as people were speculating trading for kpj after his violent outburst in cleveland, and already knowing he had multiple off-court incidents. and this is even before knowing how crappy of an actual basketball player he really was. even with the supposed "talent", i didn't want this guy on my team. turns out, he wasn't even a replacement level player in terms of quality.

    there were a few other posters who had similar concerns. still, most people were on board with trading for him. fast forward to just about a year later to the 'why is kpj clutchfans' favorite whipping boy" thread and you'll see a lot more posters realizing all of the red flags that kpj presented - from his terrible on-court attitude and his off-court drama. he really should have been released after walking out on the team during the game.
     
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    Tilman praying that the media drops this story so he doesn’t have to fire Stone.
     
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  17. Joe Rocket

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    If anyone's "crusade" was a waste of time it was yours. Your little feeble attempt to back away from this like you are some sort of innocent saint who merely liked his game isn't going to work either. Too many of us can recall "debates" with you where examples of his toxic behavior were shown and you simply ignored it and namecalled. Good for you that you have finally seen the light. That it took a young girl almost being killed for you to see it is tragic. That it took this for Stone to him drop makes me even more sad. Its a stain that will forever be on the Rockets record.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    The problem is when you are tanking and the worst team in the league that is PRECISELY the time to take big risks....we already suck, take a shot on guys that are talented by mentally unstable, that is 100% the time to do it......

    Is it surprising that it didn't work out - of course not - but I don't blame the org for turning over every rock.

    Screw what we fans think our jobs aren't on the line and frankly none of us ****ing matter.

    DD
     
  19. flamingdts

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    This is starting to make perfect sense.

    You don't understand what red flags are, so you can't anticipate simple probability. When something does finally happen, you assume it's caused by collective "hoping".

    Then again, I am not surprised you don't know what red flags are though, since it took you 2 weeks to figure out the difference between FG% and TS%. Maybe in 2 weeks time, you will discover the meaning of red flag as well.

    I'm not going to bother engaging with you anymore, but mostly because the more I engage with you, the longer it takes for you to learn what red flags are. And we both know you still have a long ways to go.
     
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  20. DaDakota

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    Nothing in sports is permanent - you go on and hold whatever grudge you want. That is on you.

    I liked KPJ's talent was HOPEFUL he would be able to overcome his demons - he wasn't and a girl was brutally assaulted, none of that is my fault, or Stone's either.

    We are all just fans here dude, just fans - none of this matters....I don't know you, you don't know me - we are just Rocket fans with differing opinions.

    I don't even recall arguing with you before all this, that is how little it matters......if you want to carry an Anti - DD torch by all means light it up and fire away, won't bother me in my life at all - and you will just continue to be on ignore....hell, I can't recall why I even put you there that is how little value I put into the internet etc, this is a fan site, we all post **** that is interesting, and we debate about it.

    If you said you KNEW this would happen you are full of ****, same as if I said it would NEVER happen again, we are all just guessing.

    None of it ****ing matters IRL !!!!

    DD
     

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