Super excited for the season no doubt. Brooks indeed looks ready to ball at Toyota center, let's go Rocketz!!
Yeah I mean the Germans were only led by NBA PLAYERS Schroder, Wagner bros and Theis who made up 90% of their teams scoring but you are right. Let this be a lesson to everyone. Being from the NBA may make you the favorite vs the NBA, but it is not guaranteed the NBA will beat the NBA. At the end of the day anything can happen and the only certainty is the NBA will be world champions.
Most people don't get the NBA doesn't care about nationality, only player ability. There's no team with non NBA players that can beat the best players in the NBA.
Nba champs aren't world champs bc they have never won any international competition. Best league in the world, yet A team full of nba players and nba coach couldn't even get a place on the podium in an international competition. World champs of what? The United States? Quite appropiate
I can't believe y'all are arguing this crap. lol. Hell, some of your arugments are all over the place.
This is dumb. The international competition is making it into the NBA. If you beat the best talent in the world at (insert activity) and you want to declare yourself the best then go ahead. You proved it. You beat the best.
The American elitist mindset is dumb. The nba does not have all the best players in the world so that logic is bullsht. The best league in the world doesn't automatically grant you the title as world champion that just arrogance. Nothing is proven by beating those avaliable in the NBA, since its not an international competition. U become the world champion by beating the best that dares to compete in an international competition. That's like the literal definition. Coco world champ Biles world champ Williams world champ Phelps world champ Magnus world champ Tiger woods world champ They didn't just become world champs by beating those in their respective country, they beat everybody in world via Olympics/world/tours/grand slam. If you want to b called world champ prove it in international competition, u gotta earn it. The us men couldn't even place on the podium. Right now the Germans are the literal world champs. Wagner twins, Schroder, thesis are world champs. Can you guess y? It's because they earn it via international competition aka FIBA world cup which is sanction by the International Basketball Federation.
Who even are the best America has to offer? In a year our only good players are going to be old and well past their prime. Who does that leave? Ja Morant? Jayson Tatum? Devin Booker? Jimmy Butler?
So you mean to tell me Lithuania, a one-man NBA team, beating the USA, was credit to the NBA? Cos Jonas Valančiūnas is the lone guy playing in the NBA? Not even their coaches have anything to do with the NBA. Valančiūnas got 12pts in the USA game, among 7 players in double figures. Anthony Edwards said before the game "we're not worried about those guys" and then proceeds to get beat soundly. You know why Lithuania was not considered a threat? Cos, like many others in the World Cup, they didn't even field their best players. FYI, Sabonis, Rokas giedraitis, Marius Giedraitis, Arnas Butkevicius, 4 of Lithuania's top10 players were also missing, along with key players Liekevicius, Matas Buzelis. -info from yt comments.
This has nothing to do with being American. That is lazy analysis. If the same collection of talent played in a Saudi league it would still be the best collection of basketball talent in the world. The NBA has 450 spots. Name a player not in the league that's better than say, half of the current players. This should be fun. Beating the best talent in the world grants you as the best in the world. If you beat the best and proclaim yourself as the best you aren't arrogant...you're proven. It's a yearly global competition to get one of their 450 available spots. No, you become the best by beating the best. Where you beat them is irrelevant. The NBA champion beats the best collection of basketball talent in the world. They did prove it, by playing against the best players on Earth and winning. The German's won a tournament that didn't contain the best basketball players in the World. And I can name multiple ones that chose not to play.
U need to win an international competition to b a world champion. Period. Arguing otherwise is just your American elitism showing. The nba is not a fking global competition, it's a domestic league based mainly in the US. We have international players doesn't make it an international competition. That's like saying we are a German league bc we have a few German players. So fking stupid. Oh we didn't send our best, is not a good excuse. I have dumb@$$ fellow americans who think being perceived the best is all it takes to being call world champ. A team full of nba players representing the nba (US) couldn't even place top 3 in an actual world competition and u here proclaiming we should already b considered world champs. Go back to school and learn your fking geography before ignoring actual international competition and its result. The Germans are rightfully world champs, they won. Being the best league in world only makes u the favorite to win in an international competiton, that's it. We had the chance to prove the world that we could back up the talk that we are the best and couldn't even top 3, fking pathetic. Hopefully it lights a fire under the stars in the league for 2024 Olympics
And it would still be stupid to call them world champions. It is a very american thing because no nation in the world calls their champions, world champions, in any sport no matter how dominant their league is at that sport. Arguing about being best just shows you equate best and champion. Champion is tournament specific, by the very definition. You are the champion of the tournament you participated in. You can't be ncaa champions by playing in the nba. If you play win the nba, you become the nba champions. I don't think anybody argues against nba has the best basketball talent and highest level of play in the world. By your logic if an nba team is too good compared to the rest of the teams, there is no reason to play the season. They should be called nba (and world) champions because they are obviously better than the others.
No, you can beat the best players in the world, like the international players Joker and Murray just did. Again, this has nada to do with America. The best players on the Nuggets are foreigners. It’s a collection of global talent in an American league. This is not that complex. It’s an international competition to get into the league. This is not complex. Who is we? The Nuggets best players aren’t American. How dumb does one have to be to not know beating the best at something makes you the best? Please link where I said the USA should be world champs. I did. I know the Nuggets top players aren’t from America.
There is nothing stupid about calling yourself the best in the world when you literally beat the best competition in the world. I don't care what the activity is. You are the champion of the best collection of basketball talent in the world. Not at all. NBA teams aren't clearly better than other NBA teams to the point of NBA players cleaerly being better at basketball than ones who don't play in the NBA. Do you think there is a collection of basketball players not in the NBA that are better basketball players than the ones in the NBA? If yes, name them?
No. Now, you answer my question : 'IF an nba team was better than the rest of the teams, as much as you think nba is better than the rest of the world, do you think it is necessary to play the games to call them champions?' Your logic says, there is no need. Because people can see they are the best team by far. And again, the general problem is for you best and champion mean the same thing. For the dictionary and most people, they don't.
You act like the team USA members who played are the best players in the NBA. They ant even the best USA NBA players. Matas Buzelis? Who? Wake me up when these guys are better than Lebron, KD and Steph Curry. BTW who were the champions again? Team Germany with Schroeder, Wagner bros and Theis right? The FIBA/Olympics champion has been and will always be the NBA.
Again we go to the chess logic Magnus Carlsen can call himself the chess world champion because he beat the best chess players in the world right? There's no need for him to beat literally everyone in the world he just needs to beat the best in the world. Well the NBA has the monopoly on best players in the world. If you rank all the players at least the top 50 all belong to the NBA. Even the Euroleague MVP is only a 7M player in the NBA. By the same logic, there's no NBA vs the world tournament cuz everyone knows the NBA will win. It's like a given. NBA is the uncrowned king of basketball everyone knows that. Which team in the world can beat a 15 man group that has Jokic, Giannis, Luka, KD, Steph, Lebron, Kawhi, Paul George, Embiid, etc etc etc? If you can't even name one why the F is this a conversation?
So are you denying the NBA is the best league in the world? What are you trying to say exactly? You realize Germany teams best players came from the NBA right? You think Schroeder is an American or what? You realize every single FIBA and Olympic champion team has been lead by an NBA player? How clueless can you be? NBA champs don't need to play anybody else other than the NBA cuz nobody is a threat to the NBA. You can't even name a non NBA team that will be considered competition to the NBA. Nobody can make that tournament cuz they will be laughed and mocked out of the building. All the sponsors will laugh and spit at your face. Mattis Bazelus or whoever vs Giannis, Jokic, Embiid, Lebron, KD etc you know how dumb that sounds? Wtf. It's like trying to organize a MMA match between Jon Jones and Gustavo Balart of One FC. "But UFC hasn't won an international competition" blah blah blah
I answered your question. Your “if” is not applicable, because the talent gap from one NBA team to another is not as wide as the gulf, like it is for players in the NBA and those outside of the NBA. My logic is if you beat the best in the world in “whatever” then you are correct when you declare yourself the best. Your logic only holds if you don’t believe the NBA has the best collection of basketball talent on this planet in the league. And if that’s your stance, name the league or outside players that are better. Pretty simple… It’s about who you beat, not where you beat them. If the Saudi’s recruit the top players to play in a league they form then whatever team wins that league will be the worlds best too.
