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Dusty hates Chas

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by HeyBudLetsParty, Jun 23, 2023.

  1. tallanvor

    tallanvor Contributing Member

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    Id bet dusty has no problem with chas, hes just stubborn and doesnt want to give in to outside forces telling him what to do.
     
  2. tallanvor

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  3. Joe Joe

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    Chas has sat 11 times (not counting May in which Chas may have sat due to recovering/IL) for Julks, Hensley, Bannon, and Madris to play DH.
     
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  4. The Beard

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    I don't know man

    When you verbally express at a press conference that if you had your rivals CF you would play him every day, but say your own CF just isn't as good

    I mean that's fairly clear there are some issues there

    Even if he said he is no Ohtani with the bat...I mean that would be a fair statement, but why the hell would a teams manager be spouting about how rivals players are better than one who he is counting on
     
  5. The Beard

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    And Dusty's boy Julio is on the list
     
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  6. The Beard

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    Oh I agree that he SHOULD

    But i'm not sure what evidence there is that he will. I mean I hope i'm wrong, if Dusty says he wants to come back I hope Crane gives the middle finger to the media and what they will say and tell Dusty no, you are done

    It would be absolutely shocking though
     
  7. The Beard

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    Some of what you say here is legit

    But on the scandalous/cheating stuff

    He had one of, if not the, most roided up stars of the roid generation, he isn't Mr Clean just because the media wants to make you believe he is
     
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  8. The Beard

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    For me maybe it's because I had a career in competitive sports

    But I just can't call someone who talks down about one of his players in public a good person

    It's a very shitty way to treat someone
     
  9. cmlmel77

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    Fair. It is very bad personnel management, at least.
     
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  10. Joe Joe

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    Julio is taller and in better shape than McCormick. McCormick's defense appears a little worse this year. That said, McCormick just gets exit hits.
     
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    It’s crazy his boy Maldy is fat as f*** and keeps allowing passed balls at an alarming rate while Yainer is athletic, especially for a catcher, but he keeps running Maldy out there…
     
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  12. Nook

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    There wasn't a manager alive that wouldn't have taken Barry Bonds and his 260 OPS+
     
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    During a time when virtually everyone was on steroids.
     
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  14. The Beard

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    If not for McCormick's defense, there is no guarantee Dusty has a ring
     
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  15. The Beard

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    Oh sure, no doubt.

    I'm just saying when I hear people say that Dusty simply wouldn't allow cheating and things like that, its disingenuous
     
  16. The Beard

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    I bet a larger percentage of MLB teams were involved in electronic sign stealing

    Than the percentage of MLB players who were using steroids

    And yes, a LOT of mlb players were using steroids, a LOT...but a lot of them weren't using too
     
  17. Nook

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    Dusty Baker has been in pro baseball for 55 years - I guarantee you that he has cheated, stolen, abused and done just about every other terrible thing a ball player can do.

    From greenies to groupies--- to grifting.
     
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  18. Nook

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    I disagree.

    I worked for the Astros during that time period - and on the Astros, over 90% of them were using steroids/human growth hormones. The testing was very poor, and it was easy to mask the tests and stay ahead of it. If a player wasn't using them to get stronger or throw faster - they were using them to return from injury faster.

    The only players I know did not use them with the Astros were Adam Everett and Lance Berkman - and they were told they should take them to be better.
     
  19. 13 in 33

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    You mean Dusty's BIG BOY Julio is on the list?
     
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  20. The Beard

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    If the number is truly over 90% that is even sadder that I thought

    And i'm not even making that comment from the "cheating" aspect

    Just to think that almost ALL of them were willing to harm their bodies long term to gain an extra buck is sad to me

    High Schools started testing during that time period. Millions were put into it because the perception was that a lot of them were following along and using. The state wide program turned up very few positive tests though, and after spending no telling how many million of dollars they replaced the testing program with an educational video that all athletes must watch yearly. Unfortunately they never change the video, it's the same exact one year after year, so not only do the athletes not pay much attention after their 7th grade year, it really kind of makes the whole thing seem worthless to them
     
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