He operates as well from the pocket as well as outside the pocket. Teams get in trouble when QB's rely on getting out of the pocket to make big plays.
Yahoo and Fantasypros have Stroud ranked as the 31st best QB this week. ESPN's rankings only go to the top 25, which Stroud is not in. Means nothing, other than to illustrate the difference between the mood on this board versus the perception from the rest of the NFL fanbase.
Looks like the mood on the board is that the offensive line is gonna get steamrolled. Pretty much lines up with that ranking.
Did you read about Caleb Williams father saying that Caleb would go back for his senior year if he doesnt like the situation with the team(s) picking at the top? Wild.
It's especially troubling when the season in front of him - not the NFL - has just started. Oh and also, there are about 4 quarterbacks that could conceivably jump him with a great year this year. Something tells me Williams could go back to school if he's not quarterback one, and is worried that he might not be, and this is just to preempt that narrative. Either way, sounds like a diva in a situation where he shouldn't have grounds to be a diva. It will be interesting to see if more and more of this happens with that NIL money in play now. I bet it does.
He said he could not would. After reading all of it, it sounded more like they just don’t think the worst teams should have the best picks in general because it hurts young QBs chances of succeeding. If the system wasn’t like this though, bad teams would have little hope of ever getting better.
I used to think Mahomes creative throwing style (the throwing from all angles thing) was just a unique skillset that he had and likely wouldn't be replicated in most NFL QBs. But after watching that Netflix documentary Quarterbacks, he has a trainer (outside of the Chiefs) who specifically focuses on that type of flexibility so he can be successful throwing in all sorts of situations. Doesn't really affect the ability to see those throws and make decisions, but I thought that was pretty intriguing and I wonder how many other QBs in the league do something similar, or will try after that documentary.
The best guys in the league are all capable of changing arm angles and throwing off platform. Rodgers was one of the first to do it. But Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Burrow all do it. Along with Murray, Lawrence, Herbert, Lamar and others
Not all those QBs would come out then. There will not be 10 teams looking for 1st round QBs. I doubt there would be 10 anyway.
How many off platform plays did Brady, Manning make. How many do Rodgers and Burrow make? Yes you have to have mobility, but not the off platform plays that Watson lives off of.
Rodgers and Burrow do it frequently. Rodgers was one of the first guys to constantly change arm angles
I think the point is, the more you offer the greater the potential. I agree with you that pocket passing and traditional arm talent is priority number one. But the guys that combine that with the ability to make plays outside of structure are the truly elites. Hell, even Brady did it to a certain extent. It was inside pocket but he was a master of buying time inside the pocket
Not saying it would happen. But I was talking about some of these studs falling off a cliff a la Spencer rattler before we had the top pick next year having gotten Will Anderson 2nd and not drafted Stroud. but can you imagine we went that way and the QB we wanted said “nah, I’m goin back to school or y’all can trade me” Would be absolutely wild.. yes, yes, I know we could just draft one of the other 9 top tier, first round, QBs of the best qb class to ever graduate… but still. Just crazy how plan can go awry like that.
It’s really not hyperbole to say this might be the deepest draft of top tier QBs in the last 30 yrs. Even without Williams
I agree with that, but as far as the guys in this class go, I’d rather the one with the accuracy be taught to run and combine that way than the guy who can run taught to hit the broadside of a barn.
That’s fair. But you still have to have the coordination and ability to make plays off platform. That’s not something you can teach easily
