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2023 Season Astros General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 10, 2023.

  1. IdStrosfan

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    Dusty is not doing anything he did not do last year.

    Brown was hired into an existing (World Series winning) organization that had already competed plans and acquisitions for this season.

    He knew, and I'm sure understood when hired that he was going to be basically working on auto pilot this entire season.

    I would also guess that there was an agreement that he would be given more control when the season ends. Including hiring a new manager of his selection. If they win again. Dusty will be given and option to return and then it's a repeat.

    I just hope 2023 isn't a waste because of it.
     
  2. sealclubber1016

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    What roster construction issues is he responsible for?

    He, like Click, just can't force Dusty to not be a dumbass.
     
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  3. Nick

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    As far as I know, he’s still is in charge of call ups, demotions, injury replacements, etc.

    I haven’t minced words, I don’t think Singleton is qualified to be on an MLB roster…. Let alone PH in games… let alone start games. He also called Julks back up. Called up Madris. Knowing full well they’d be played more than they deserved. If those guys, being the only options on the 40 man, aren’t good enough… go out and get somebody better.

    Click did find a way to force Dusty to stop playing Straw. Albeit, he bet his job on the wrong prospect (Meyers).

    And the point of moving on from Click was to eliminate the dysfunction. Sure, Dusty is a dumbass when left unchecked. Having a GM who can’t get across to his manager is not encouraging.

    And I know everybody thinks it will be ok when he just hires his own manager… but they’ll probably go the further extreme like Luhnow did with Porter (somebody he thought he could control given it was his first managerial job), but instead all you may get is total incompetence/inexperience.
     
  4. sealclubber1016

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    Basically all of your issues are because he has a stupid manager he has to work around. He needs to add the biggest scrub on the planet just to make sure he never sees the field.

    I don't know WTF he's supposed to do about a manager who refuses to listen to anybody, and has his entire career. And just won a power struggle with the last GM so Im sure he's more emboldened than ever.

    It's not really anybodies fault that we've had to go crazy deep into our depth chart, it's the managers fault that the end of the depth chart is constantly on the field instead of the good players.
     
  5. Joe Joe

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    Putting it on the GM, after the money was spent and a thin farm system that everyone on the roster is a great player seems a little undue because the manager won't f#$%ing play his best 9 players more than once a week.

    The Astros should be up about 4 games right now fighting for the 1st Bye with basic lineups.
     
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  6. Nick

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    Agreed… was referring to the time when they had to have Julks there due to injury. And had to have Singleton there due to injury (albeit, I’d have just had another catcher up and force him to play Diaz more at first).

    And he doesn’t need to add the biggest scrub. Just upgrade from the current below replacement players. 0 WAR better than negative WAR.
     
  7. Nick

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    I’m not putting it on the GM… I’m frustrated that he lacks experience and we’re about to see them go the opposite extreme in their managerial hiring decisions as opposed to having a little more stones to induce compromise now (or again, get guys off the MLB roster who aren’t close to being MLB players… once they’ve sufficiently shown as such with all the undeserved playing time).
     
  8. Qan

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    Honestly don't blame Brown in this situation. This is all on Crane.
     
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  9. IBTL

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    basddsaf
     
  10. IdStrosfan

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    Brown was put into this situation.

    Do any of us really KNOW how much authority Brown has over Dusty?
     
  11. tehG l i d e

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    Listen to context clues from all of Dana's interviews. "...it's up to Dusty.." is a common phrase.
     
  12. tehG l i d e

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    Imagine if someone would've told you at the beginning of the season that

    -Astros would miss the playoffs
    -Jose Abreu would be one of the worst players in baseball
    -Yankees would have our number
    -Rangers and Mariners have a better record
    -The organization no longer has Drew Gilbert or Ryan Clifford......
     
  13. IdStrosfan

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    Well despite all we see they are still in position and control their own destiny.

    As long as they can match them win for win or loss for loss in other games:

    If they win 2 out of 3 this week they pass the Rangers and secure the tiebreaker.

    If they sweep the Mariners in 3 weeks they pass the them into the division lead.

    It's not like they are eliminated. But Dusty simply must start playing the best 9 every game.

    I am baffled day after day, when I see the lineups, how a HOF manager can't get something that basic right.
     
  14. Radricky

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    There is still time to be that hot team heading into the post season.
    That is assuming we make it.
     
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  15. cmlmel77

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    This is the problem. For Dusty and his (rapidly shrinking) legions of defenders, the fact that he is an automatic HOF manager means that whatever he does IS right.
     
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  16. IdStrosfan

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    The tanked commander was also a HOF manager and look how that turned out for Chicago.
     
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  17. jim1961

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    We better hope the Blue Jays don't heat up.
     
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    Not necessarily they could be far enough behind not to pass them and the Mariners hold the tie breaker.
     
  20. IBTL

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    Exactly lol.
     

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