Amen Thompson is the Rockets' REAL franchise player

Amen will see 8 mpg. Udoka doesn't play rookies.

 

I agree. Brooks is another high paid guy. This is why getting Brooks long term is dumb. Even if Amen doesn't pan out like we hope, we still have Tari for that role and FVV can still be the starting PG.

 

You are a complete idiot.

 

I think we keep FVV. With Amen, we don't know what playing on a prosthetic foot do to his athleticism. It's great that the amputation is below the knee, but long term, he might not be as explosive. FVV is good insurance.

 

FVV is a shooting guard anyway at his best, he can play next to Amen no problem. The problem is that injuries killed a lot of his athleticism, we will see how much he will regress physically in 2 years time

 

thank you old man. I didn’t know minutes per game can offend someone.

Van Vleet KPJ Green are the most used guard trio in the rotation. Amen is not magically going to get minutes unless someone’s hurt.

 

Brooks' main task is to instill toughness but you could build a team that is 0.500 and then instill toughness.

They wanted FVV, Brooks and Lopez, that was clear, now they are left with only 2. Brooks is the least talented one.

 

He is the #4 pick in the draft and a shot away from being a superstar. He will be getting over 20 mins by the all-star break if healthy. He can play 3 positions and plays defense.

 

I see the next Penny Hardaway with his game. I feel he will have a learning curve early on, I just feel Udoka will ease him in. I can even see Tate have more minutes.

I hope he starts hot and is forced to play. I think out of all our rookies we have had, Amen will be so much ahead by all star break since he has so many veterans to learn from. Good coaching.

 

Now that is reasonable. He just has to get that ankle ready for preseason.

 

Penny Hardaway is a great shout actually, I didn't see it myself until you said it but I can see the comp. Every time I say stuff like this I feel like people are gonna look at me the way I looked at people til I watched Amen's highlights, but I think Amen's more athletic/explosive than Penny was also. I think Penny had more rounded fundamentals in general though whilst not being a great shooter. When Amen actually explodes he reminds me of a young Rose/Westbrook, he's not as smooth as Jalen is but I think he'll go through/over people the way Russ would and Green doesn't. His lateral movement in the air is also ridiculous, he seriously covers ground with almost no run up.

 

Yeah I’m very impressed with the slow pace to fast pace. He hits different gears most players can never reach… Def that young Rose feel. If he ever gets a decent shot going, he might be unstoppable. I think he has the highest ceiling out of any player we have.

 

I think I like Amen more as an oversized point guard as opposed to a normally-sized small forward--could give us some pretty insane defensive potential, say with Tari in his prime starting at the 3 for example.

However, I can see Amen being great as a point forward too.

 

Amen either has a size advantage at 1 or a speed advantage at 3. The difference being, at 3 you get to keep an allstar in the lineup (fvv), at 1 you get Dillon Brooks (who I’m higher on than most, but still Dillon Brooks).

 

We didn't draft a top 4 pick to play him only 8 minutes per game, that's crazy.

U would have gotten the same response from him if we drafted scoot/wemby and u said they will only get 8 mins per game cause ime doesn't play rooks

 

Yeah, I'm just talking down the road, like his long-term position. I don't see FVV is more than a temporary stopgap. But yeah, I agree that in the short term I'd rather see him take minutes from Brooks (and KPJ) than FVV.

 

Amputation, I hope it is not dark humor.

 

Fvv is only a temporary stopgap if we are replacing him with someone better, because the team is trying to win. And we are not replacing him with Amen, since both can play well together. Fvv just turned 29, Chris Paul was 37 last season and still effective, at 29 he was still with the Clippers and before his Houston stint - think about that. People are viewing Fvv as some kind of over the hill on his last legs vet to hold the team over for a few years like OKC Chris Paul when he’s actually in the middle of his prime like Clippers Chris Paul (in terms of timeline, not player value). We should be looking to how to fit him into our future instead of already biding our time to get rid of him (unless it’s a trade for someone better).

 

Phoenix brought a 35 year old Chris Paul to team up with their 24 year old star Booker, 24 year old Bridges and 22 year old Ayton. That is what got that team to where it is today, they didn’t make a single playoffs before and was able to attract KD after. The last thing we should be worried about is Fvv’s age.

 

Nope, but it took Freddie 11 years to get to the starting point of Chris Paul who was already close to All Star level when he entered the league.

That is why 37 year old guy is still pretty useful and 37 old FVV would be out of the league probably.

That is the main difference.

That is like comparing David West to Duncan or Nowitzki.......just because David West made 1 or 2 AS games which Chris Paul had a hand in.