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Time to fire Stone

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by my time to shine, Oct 30, 2022.

  1. daywalker02

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    Fair enough, personally rank him around 20.

    Brad Stevens is too inexperienced to be at 9.

    Presti a tad higher up.

    The whole Silas debacle and charade is worth a big fat Minus.

    A big plus for Co-GM Witus.
     
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  2. roslolian

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    Silas debacle? What debacle? It's cuz of the "Silas Debacle" we got so much young talent right now.
     
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    Good thing, people have amnesia about it.

    Drafting talent does not make 3 years of virtual no game plan development and bad habits go away.

    Just substract 3-4 years from your life, and see how many people complain.
     
  5. peleincubus

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    I should have not taken those vacations the last few years. I lost them all. Deleting the pictures right now then doing some bath salts and pcp to forget everything.

    FQ-U Stone!
     
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    If you're successfully tanking, how much game plan development do you need? You guys need to pick a side
     
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  7. rocketchamp

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    Correct. The Silas experience is why we got the most cap space of any team. If we could grade Stone based off strictly results, then he'd be worthy of a A
     
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    What Stone and sucking did was turn the least desirable roster in the NBA (The WOW factor era) to a team that has most national media publications ranking it as one of the top 3 young cores in the NBA.

    It's now up to the job of the coaching staff to make that young core into a winner.

    Stone did his job in terms of accumulating a bunch of high end talent.
     
  9. roslolian

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    If the players played great how can you tank and have a losing record? Why would having a game plan even matter if you wanna tank and lose games?

    You can't keep getting a top pick and have your young guys explode on the court at the same time.

    Plus how much bad habits do Sengun and Jalen have? They haven't exactly turned into loser malcontents in the past 3 yrs smh. Their trajectory so far has been in line with other lotto talents. If Jalen blows up this year are you still gonna say the past 3 yr ruined him? People play on losing teams all the time esp when they are young ask KD and Devin Booker.
     
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    The result you have today can be traced to past actions, you can't bash the "Silas debacle" and then like all the talent we have accumulated the past 3 yrs.

    There has been 2 sets of rebuilds so far, the Stone way that was done in 3 yrs and resulted in Rox getting 7 lotto prospects and a possible playoff team and the Morey way that lasted 5 yrs and had the team full of old role players like Chuck Hayes, Luis Scola and Landry which had the team making the 8th seed every year and giving them the 15th pick.

    Pretty sure the Stone way wins hands down not only is it 40% quicker you also have a younger and more exciting team at the end.
     
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  11. ApacheWarrior

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    There you go.

    It took 29 pages to come to a consensus of what I said on page 1. FIRE STONE
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Let’s wait to see how this roster plays out!

    DD
     
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  13. topfive

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    “Consensus”?

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    So much rubbish in this thread ! Y
     
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    I'm Ok with Stone so far, I'd like to see where this roster goes from here, loads of potential.

    I'd rather the Athletic fire Kelly Iko and get a Rocket fan to do the job .... not some clown who posts terrible trade scenarios or tells us we're going to trade for an over the hill former MVP - either one of them.

    The Chron could get rid of Jonathan Feigen too.

    We don't have the worst GM in the league, we do have the worst reporters.
     
  17. daywalker02

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    The truth with journalists is you do not have to read their stuff, you can block them out completely.

    Fans are re-directing via Twitter and social media.

    Hard to block out a GM if you want to watch a presser or anything from the team.
     
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    Oh yeah, regular season results point to an A+++.

    The true problem is that he tried to meddle in practices and other areas.

    He is average to below average, I would rather see a younger GM take over rather sooner than later.

    Someone like Witus or Chuck Hayes who was poached by the Worriers.

    Witus has worked his way up to the top from the bottom unlike Stone who was already a lawyer.

    Would not cost Tilman that much to be honest.
     
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  19. clos4life

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    Definitely prefer the way Morey rebuilt, it was competitive basketball. The garbage of the last 3 years has been the most unbearable thing I've ever seen, with the only excitement coming in flashes from individual performances. The future looks bright true, but I ain't getting those 3 years of my life back.
     
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  20. Williamson

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    It's hard for me to argue with this after he traded away future 10 time MVP Josh Christopher FOR NOTHING!
     
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