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[2023 NFL Draft/1-2] C.J. Stroud, QB, Ohio State

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Apr 27, 2023.

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Do you like the selection of C.J. Stroud?

Poll closed Sep 11, 2023.
  1. YES

    84.4%
  2. NO

    15.6%
  1. cmoak1982

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    Literally the entire league thinks that.
    Here you go with your anti-white rhetoric again.
    Tell me again, is Luck and Herbert not athletic?

    Both are ten times the athlete Stroud is yet Stroud is mobile and they aren’t? Curious
     
  2. GBpack23

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    Hey Texan fans I hope you guys make the playoffs this season. God Bless.
     
  3. cmoak1982

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    You’re absolutely right. I enjoy arguing with some of these clowns.
    I have said Stroud has talent and ability to become a good QB.
    But because I don’t say he’s Burrow, Mahomes, Brady I’m labeled as a hater or hating every thing he does.
    These idiots live in a fantasy land.
     
  4. cmoak1982

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    Love looks like he might be good, have a good season
     
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    Crazy enough I would have been cool with LJ as our franchise guy. I also would have drafted Anthony Richardson over CJ with a modern QB attack offense because that is what is confusing defenses right now. CJ has an absolute cannon of an arm. If he can be graced with good blocking, WRs that can make plays and a stout defense I think we can win high leverage games with him at the helm.
     
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  6. GBpack23

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    Hey Texan fans I hope you guys make the playoffs this season. God Bless.
    i hope so. Lots of us think we might be in for a rough season though.
     
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  7. Omihall23

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    I never said he couldn't be. That's where we fundamentally disagree. You look at a prospect and decide what they can and can't do definitively. I try to take age, physical ability, and potential growth into account. Mills ran a hand timed 4.58, so probably closer to a 4.67 laser time. Looking at his high school and college tape, he never looked like he was comfortable running and didn't appear to have that sort of speed on tape. That's been confirmed in the NFL. He is a better runner now than he was 2 years ago, but he still very stiff overall. Compared to that Stroud is better at the same age point, and only experience can tell us if he can develop a bit more, but we've already seen flashes in the Georgia game.
     
  8. GBpack23

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    You guys should improve this year a lot. You’ll be fine.
     
  9. cmoak1982

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    We see completely different things. Stroud has not shown consistently to be mobile.
    And he isn’t the athlete that Mills is physically.
     
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    Whats you guys prediction for the Texans this season?
     
  11. cmoak1982

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    Hopefully? 9-10 wins
    Worst case? 3-5 wins
    Realistically? 6-7 wins
     
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  12. GBpack23

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    How bout the rest of the division?
     
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  13. cmoak1982

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    I personal think it’s going to be:
    Jacksonville 11-6
    Tennessee 9-8
    Houston 7-10
    Indy 6-11
     
  14. GBpack23

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    Jaguars look tough with Lawrence now.
     
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    If that’s what you believe then there is no discussion to be had. Stroud has better runs both in high school and college than Mills did. That’s still not enough for you to let go of your bias. Nothing will be at this point other than CJ doing it in the NFL. I just hope if he does that you’ll admit that you were wrong.
     
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    Have you seen Mills highschool tape? He was the number 1 QB in his class. Stop it.

    Mills being physically superior to Stroud isn’t a big deal, they both don’t run. And if you think Mills has gotten better since college, where he was injured the entire time that’s fine. That doesn’t mean there’s a baseline, and it also doesn’t mean Stroud is going to “improve” like Mills did. Stroud might be tapped out athletically. He’s had no injuries to restrict his growth. We will see.
    Stroud in terms of run, jump, explosiveness is a tick below Mills. Neither of them would be considered mobile or playmakers.
     
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    You are ****ing clueless. Mills is not the athlete Stroud is. It is PAINFULLY obvious your bias toward Stroud is pathological and not based in reality. The need to be right about Stroud has blinded you to your own bullshit.
     
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    God you’re delusional.
    You obviously have never played any sport or any type of athlete whatsoever.
    Stroud couldn’t run a 4.58 in his dreams.
    You and others here want so badly for Stroud ti be something he’s not that you’re blinded.
     
  19. Omihall23

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    He was the number 1 pocket QB so you can stop it. I've watched both of their tapes
    Mills doesn’t run a 4.58 so your point is meaningless. Hand times are much faster than laser times. This is known by anyone with any knowledge which you clearly don’t have.
     
  20. cmoak1982

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    Lmao.
    I train and test elite athletes daily. Along with being a college athlete.
    It is absolutely you that has no idea what you’re talking about.
    Even if you want to say Mills runs a mid 4.6 laser timed, Stroud still isn’t running that.
    He has no burst whatsoever
     

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