You read like half a sentence out of anything I’ve posted. It’s really frustrating and causes me to keep responding. It’s like you’re an influencer just trying to get clicks. I haven’t mentioned the throw one time. I haven’t said Stroud would be Burrow or Brady at all. In fact I’ve said “I know how some say he could be Brady which I am not doing, but you can be a good qb without being twitchy with burst a la Brady” but yes it would take quick processing which I’m not sure he has so I haven’t pushed that comparison any more. I am going to lay out the other point I’ve been trying to make as clearly as possible, we’ll see if you can understand: I. AM. NOT. SAYING. STROUD. IS. JOE. BURROW. I am saying that for you to only compare him to qb’s based on athleticism like Goff, and saying it’s is insane to say a ceiling is Burrow is so disingenuous because you don’t like him. HE. HAD. THE. SAME. STATS. AS. BURROW. IN. COLLEGE. Stop bringing up athleticism, I do not care. As a WHOLE QB, he has very similar abilities to Burrow OTHER THAN WIGGLE. College stats are all we have to go off of. So it’s not crazy to think he could have the same career as a guy who had the same stats. Could he also have a career like keenum who had great college stats, YES. IS IT MORE LIKELY THAT HE HAS A GOFF CAREER THAN BURROW? ALSO YES. But comparing him to burrow WHO HAD THE SAME STATS, is not crazy, it’s just less likely, Jesus Christ. Now, for the love of all that is holy, please attempt to respond to this WITHOUT MENTIONING ATHLETICISM. I truly don’t think you are capable of doing it. Also, you said “Levis comparison to Allen is strictly athleticism based” um ok, then the Stroud/Brady comparison is strictly athleticism based. They’re SAME THING. And if you cannot see any of this and just think I’m some fanboy who hasn’t had multiple criticisms of Stroud then I don’t know what to tell you, but you are incapable of a logical discussion.
Yes. I’m not reading all of that. But, I am the only one having a logical conversation. You all are in a fantasy land.
Many do! Here's a look at highlights of both CJ and Burrow running/scrambling from the pocket. And if you look at both, a case could be made that CJ appears to just as fast, if not faster than Burrow from those highlights. How someone can insinuate that Burrow is so better of an athlete than CJ is beyond stupidity.
Here's a look at highlights of both CJ and Burrow running/scrambling from the pocket. And if you look at both, a case could be made that CJ appears just as fast, if not faster than Burrow from those highlights. How someone can insinuate that Burrow is so much better of an athlete than CJ is beyond stupidity.
Honestly, what concerns me about Stroud is how he is going to perform under pressure, and his processing speed. But his accuracy is elite and his “athleticism” is serviceable for a QB. It’s just weird to me when someone focuses so much on the athleticism part, like this is about a QB right? I think it’s just because it’s the only thing that is certain.. Stroud lacks wiggle. It’s a way to remain right on the keyboard fight. If you focus too much on the ability under pressure then if he succeeds you look wrong. But you can never be wrong saying a guy with no wiggle has no wiggle.. so that might explain it…
You do realize that there are many on here under the delusion that Stroud is a good athlete right? Comparing him to Mahomes, Burrow and Dak. Im sorry that a dose of reality doesn’t sit right with you or you think it’s “hating” I don’t care about being right. I do care about the truth. Stroud is what he is, let him be that. The poster you responded to is a known bigot who claims white QBs can’t be mobile and only thinks Stroud is mobile because of the color of his skin. Same guy that said Luck and Herbert weren’t or couldn’t be mobile. Your argument with me is not with me, it’s with me against some of the idiots on this forum.
You’re a flat out idiot if you think Stroud can move that way. He doesn’t make people miss and gets ran down by linemen
Seems to me those were more or less plays made by Chase and Higgins, than Burrow. And just to show how BYASS you are, if you look at the throws that Burrow threw, many were behind Chase and Higgins, where they had to either come back or slow down and make adjustments to catch the ball. Whereas, the pass that CJ threw in New Orleans to Nico was on point, he didnt have to slow down nor make any adjustments but you criticized CJ! Just say why you don't like CJ! We ALL know why.
I don’t like him because he’s an Ohio St QB, a Mulugheta and Avery client and the culture he surrounds himself with is a bunch of piece of crap humans. We know the only reason you like him. And the throws have nothing to do with movement ability. Burrow is better than Stroud, a better prospect a better athlete and a million times better under pressure. Stroud is at best inconsistent throwing on the run and under pressure. Burrow is elite there. But; we know why you would hate on Burrow. Doesn’t fit your narrative of young black QBs taking over the game does it.
No he didn’t. You know there’s a video of every run he has in a season. The overwhelming majority is no burst, elusiveness and constantly getting hit and/or run down by linemen and linebackers-in college.
I feel like cmoak has some weird turrets and/or OCD thing going on with qbs. It’s always about “prospect”, “elite athleticism” or “elite arm strength”. The QB position is very unique. And none of the attributes he mentions so much are actually necessary for being a good qb. Very strange.
I like him because he has all the qualities I like in a young QB; accuracy, intelligent, good arm strength and outside of you, thats the feeling of the majority. And based upon your infatuation with drafting Levis or your plan to stick with Mills as an alternative, I think Texan fans are glad they didnt follow your plan.
Levis wasn’t my guy. But I’d take him over Stroud. No, that’s not the feeling of the majority. There’s a large chunk of Texans fans that hate the Stroud pick, and even more non Texan fans that are waiting on the next Ohio St bust. But we all know that’s not the real reason you like Stroud
For one, it’s Tourette’s. What you’re referencing is a defensive small tower on a building. And no, I have always been an arm first fan with good mental acumen. But, the game is evolving and you have to be able to move. Stroud has the arm. That’s about it though. I do enjoy the scouting process, the physical attributes along with skills. It’s my profession.
I mean in play #10 and play #8 he used his legs and “wiggle” so yea, let’s say stroud won’t make those. The rest of the plays were highly accurate throw made with plenty of time in the pocket. Just to be clear are we saying Stroud can’t make any of those other plays due to his lack of “wiggle”?
Has anyone said Stroud can’t throw well? Where are you getting this from? Throwing on the run, off platform or under pressure he’s not good at, yet. He might get there. But no one has said he can’t make all the throws from a clean pocket and when he’s on time. You’re arguing with yourself
