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Congratulations to Gov DeSantis

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  1. rocketsjudoka

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    SO in otherwords you're saying to accept their hatred and their grievance. As you note you can emphathize and not agree. You can empathize and also still think what someone is doing is wrong.

    You're illustrating a point that I frequently bring up regarding the Right. You're arguing that grievanec and hatred is justified and that justifies behavior and actions that in other context you would consider wrong. In other words it's not about principle. It's about grievance.
     
  2. rocketsjudoka

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    I've done a little more research and the event was called a "a Prayer vigil" I can't find out who organized it but it clearly was a public event and not a private event for the families.

    Also to note a Democratic city councilor for Jacksonville told the crowd to not be partisan when they were heckling DeSantis. Perhaps Ju'Coby Pittman isn't empathetic and exercising her privelage.

    https://www.npr.org/2023/08/28/1196305761/desantis-jacksonville-vigil-booed

    'You're not welcome here!' DeSantis booed at vigil for Jacksonville shooting victims
    August 28, 202312:20 PM ET

    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was booed and heckled on Sunday while attending a prayer vigil in Jacksonville for the three victims killed in what authorities say was a racially motivated attack at a local Dollar General.

    DeSantis, a Republican presidential candidate, and his wife were among those who gathered in Jacksonville's Grand Park neighborhood to commemorate the victims of the Saturday shooting. But not everyone was pleased that the governor was there.

    As DeSantis approached the podium to speak, some people in the crowd began to boo; one person yelled out, "You're not welcome here." Later, someone shouted, "Your policies caused this," according to videos of the event. As governor, DeSantis has loosened the state's guns laws, and curbed efforts to teach Black history in public schools.

    DeSantis attempted to continue speaking, mentioning that the state was "looking at identifying funds" to bolster security at Edward Waters University, a nearby historically Black school that the gunman visited hours before attacking the Dollar General.

    But as the boos and heckling grew louder, DeSantis stopped talking mid-sentence. Jacksonville councilwoman Ju'Coby Pittman stepped in and addressed the crowd.

    "Put parties aside," Pittman said. "A bullet don't know a party."


    DeSantis' office did not respond to a request for comment. On Monday, the governor's office directed $1 million toward campus security at Edward Waters University and $100,000 to support the families of the three shooting victims.

    On Saturday, a white gunman opened fire inside a Dollar General, killing three Black community members: Anolt "AJ" Laguerre Jr., 19; Jerrald De'Shaun Gallion, 29; and Angela Michelle Carr, 52.

    Sheriff T.K. Waters said the attack was racially motivated and that the gunman, Ryan Palmeter, 21, left behind "manifestos" that suggested he "hated Black people," before he killed himself.

    The Department of Justice is investigating the shooting as a hate crime and "an act of racially motivated violent extremism."

    During his remarks on Sunday, DeSantis called the shooting "totally unacceptable," saying, "We are not going to let people be targeted based on their race."

    But the attack has brought renewed scrutiny to the governor's record both on guns and race.

    In April, the governor signed a permitless carry bill into law, which allows people to legally own a firearm without training or a background check. After this weekend's shooting, the Jacksonville branch of the NAACP urged the state legislature to reconsider the law.

    DeSantis has also cracked down on diversity initiatives and the teaching of Black history in public schools over concerns of "woke indoctrination."
     
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    Good on her.
     
  4. rocketsjudoka

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    I've found common ground between @fchowd0311 and @AroundTheWorld

    I'm the biggest uniter on Clutchfans!:D
     
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    Big difference is, you are not malicious. I would say neither are @FranchiseBlade and @txtony, as much as I disagree with them again and again.

    Malicious ones are people like @fchowd0311 (although I mostly give him a pass, despite the outrageous posts, seems like a confused kid), @dobro1229, @dmoneybangbang, @jo mama - you know, the kinds of people who make up crap about molesting children and whatever, to "win" an internet argument.

    These people have no moral compass whatsoever, and yet, they think of themselves as the virtuous ones.

    I understand that @Clutch basically stopped moderating the forum a long time ago, but at least most people have the common sense to keep their crap to the D&D, except @fchowd0311 who took it to the GARM. If @Clutch cared like he used to, that would have always been a ban. But whatever.
     
  6. Andre0087

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    @rocketsjudoka for President 2024, all hail the great reconciler!
     
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    This reminds me of the time Tilman brought Dan Patrick to speak at Elvin Hayes halftime jersey retirement

    He instantly got heckled by the crowd, and Tilman grabbed the mic and reprimanded the crowd by saying something like “this isn’t a time for politics”, in which many responded “then why would you bring out a politician?”

    Bringing up a politician is innately bringing up politics, IMO.
     
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  8. AroundTheWorld

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    You are also one of the non-malicious lefties.
     
  9. Reeko

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    expecting people not to heckle or boo someone who attacks blackness and actively tries to disenfranchise black people is ridiculous

    U think we forgot about him doing things like arresting black voters to try and gain points with his racist base?

    stop it…
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    Lol good job man. I'm not here to invite. I'm here to give my sincere thoughts.
     
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    If only all it took to be "right wing" is to be angry.

    Being angry is a human thing.

    Being angry at WHAT is the the issue and it seems like that is irrelevant to you.

    Being angry because your fascist leader lost an election and refuses to concede is not the same as being angry that a politician who propagated white supremacy is in your community memorializing victims of white supremacy.

    Yes I distinguish between why someone is angry. That matters to me. It apparently doesn't matter to you.
     
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    Is being rude to you something that matters to me when you spend 10 hours a week spamming anti-trans content on a bad team fan message board?

    You need to grow up and learn the difference between fake politeness and sincere care of other humans. Civility with you has no bearing on whether someone is kind to humans.
     
  14. fchowd0311

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    If politeness worked MLK wouldn't have 2020 level congressional approval ratings right before he got shot to death.

    Politeness has never solved core issues in America. Laborers stormed mountain hills against machine gun fire to fight their coal mining bosses. That started a massive labor movement.

    I would even say the BLM rioters are responsible for why Memphis city officials immediately arrested and charged those four officers in the "Scorpion Unit". The fear of another summer of rioting out the fear of God in those city officials.
     
  15. NewRoxFan

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    When the very stable genius' mangling of the word "rumor" isn't the thing that is most funny about this...

     
  16. AroundTheWorld

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    This is out of line. Do you have any evidence that the gentleman behind Governor DeSantis is a Nazi?
     
  17. Reeko

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    Idk who the hell Bryan Griffin is, but he sounds delusional.
     
  18. edwardc

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    I really don't care if he is or not it made me laugh.
     
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  19. fchowd0311

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    "Nazi" is a gradient. He's as close to a Nazi as one can get that can win a general election in an American state.
     
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    Does Trump do his own tweets? "Roomer" Really?
     

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