He looks great. We could really use another receiver with the ability to get seperation. Nico may have a decent year, but he really strikes me as a possession receiver. Hopefully something will shake out when the cuts are made.
That throw was nothing like the throw to Nico. That one was 34 yds in air with much less loft and the receiver never broke stride. Elite throw. The one to Nico was 44 yds in air with high loft where the receiver tracked and had to slow down. Good throw but if it was out there 5 yds further it’s an elite throw. Or he puts less loft on it like the one you posted.
You are really stretching it here. It was a great throw. Anything to lessen anyone’s excitement over his obvious progression this training camp. He is a rookie and will have some up and down moments, but criticizing that throw just shows you are trolling at this point. Just admit it, you want him to fail so you can be right on an Internet forum.
Jesus Christ. You guys are really something else. I said the throw was good. It wasn’t great, Nico had to slow down after he started tracking. Even still, it wasn’t missed by much. That’s not criticism, that’s objectivity and not rose colored fan boy reaction. Y’all are so desperate for Stroud to be elite that you’re reaching. The kid is 11/20 for 89 yds and 1-1 TD/Int on the preseason. That’s the definition of average. He’s had some good throws and hes had some bad ones. If Bryce, AR, Levis had those numbers y’all would be dogging them. In fact there were multiple posts about Stroud being better than Bryce after the first two games. That’s just the cope coming out. And no, no one is trolling (outside of a few **** talking posts) I don’t care about being wrong, I care about the future of the Texans. I would rather be wrong about Stroud and the Texans benefit. But as it stands, he’s shown what he was in college. Fine when protected and not so much when not
You're right, when the offensive line played like tissue paper in the first game and he was in there for a handful of snaps he didn't do anything special. Tom Brady: Greatest QB ever when protected and not so much when not. (See Superbowl against the Giants where he couldn't get his team going)
Yes. Stroud is the next Tom Brady!!! He has the strongest arm ever, precision accuracy and might be the best athlete to ever grace the position. He’s elite, every ball he misses it’s because the receiver didn’t catch it. He has no faults. A pure genius, savant even
You guys need to take a step back and temper your expectations. Honest criticism of average play isn’t a bad thing. Stroud has had some very nice throws. The one to Nico included, but he still was the reason for the incompletion. Stop comparing him to Brady or even Burrow, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment.
I am not sold on Stroud yet, I was simply pointing to the silliness of the statement you made. I don't think he will be Tom Brady, I was highlighting how your statement would apply to Brady. He had 4 passes against New England with the offensive line literally getting rolled over. Those 4 passes don't show you anything. One, because it's a small sample size and two, because it wasn't just poor protection it was ZERO protection. And great, if you think he's going to be exactly what he is college that's awesome. Lead the NFL in passing touchdowns over 3 year stretch? I'll take it. Realistically, we barely saw him in the preseason. In 3 games combined he didn't take a full game's worth of snaps. I liked his throws. I think as a placer of the football he's the best the Texans have ever had. Schaub was a better QB than people give him credit for, but his ball location was spotty and limited him. Now, will CJ be able to read defenses and stuff? I have no idea. I have barely seen him play against NFL players.
What I DO know, is that if he isn't elite...and I mean better than Matt Schaub, Caserio gots ta go! This team has had too many valuable picks to come away with so little. If they missed on a QB with a top 5 pick AND gave up draft capital to do it when there are supposed to be great prospects the next year...whew boy.
Yep, his college stats where he had a talent advantage over every school he faced is going to transfer over to the NFL. Sound logic. The point was, he doesn’t handle pressure well. He throws a great ball but he’s not a guy that can make something out of nothing consistently. He needs a great Oline and receivers, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. It just limits his upside imo. Taking out all the back and forth. He throws a gorgeous ball, if he can make quick reads and be on time I think he can be a good QB
Everyone needs to temper their expectations, good or bad. Give him a year and maybe some elite receivers, then see what happens.
I'm not saying you are wrong about this, seriously, just hear me out: We don't know that he can't handle pressure. The reason we don't know it is because in college he had such a talent advantage (that you point out) that when he did face pressure it's just not something he's ready for. We saw it in game 1 of the preseason as well. When the line was tissue paper he was clearly flustered. Where we disagree is apparently only on whether that is indicative of anything yet. I say no. Not because I'm betting he will be great, but because I think he needs to actually face NFL defenses that can attack him more than a few series before we can judge anything on how he handles it. I am not naive and certainly not a Texans homer. I'm as cynical and jaded about this team as anyone. There mere fact that he's a Texan makes me skeptical lol. His score on that stupid test he took does concern me still. I worry he can't process defenses that are complicated and attack, attack, attack from mixed up coverages and different blitzers. But I don't know if any of that will be true and I certainly can't evaluate it on the preseason snaps. This is the only thing I'm certain of about him. He throws a great football. He also need to be better than good or Caserio needs to be fired. Yes I'm repeating it because I want to speak into existence.
The receiver thing is still looking shaky to me. Other than Dell I'm not sure any of these guys can get much separation, but admittedly didn't Robert Woods much in the preseason. Dell is too small I think to be a primary target down in down out, so I'm definitely worried.
I do think we did to temper our expectations. I hate he didn't get more reps in PS live action, but understand it's really not what he's going to face when the regular season starts and you have all starters and game plans open up. I expect Baltimore to throw the kitchen sink at him and here's where Slowik's game plan and preparation can make a difference. CJ needs some early wins--completions and 1st downs will help his confidence. Our run game needs to be on point, that will take some pressure off and help play action. Protections will be important, but quick hitters to start the game and allow him to get in rhythm should help. I'll actually be in Maryland for the game, so plan on hitting a sports bar and listen to the Raven fans perspective on the game.
