What will it take to make you seriously consider an EV?

My EV has an option to turn on "engine sounds." I guess a lot of folks are used to hearing the motor as a way to gauge speed and such. (I have it turned off in mine because I like the quiet that allows for great music-listening while driving.)

 

I need 1 more price cut for the Model 3 and i'll buy it.

 

Which is pretty silly.

Tesla is a smart buy because of efficiency, charging, and tech, and also because Model 3 and Y are the best value propositions for a new car purchase right now with the price cuts and federal and state tax rebates.

Considering what the Model 3 can be purchased for and even lower in the future, I don’t see why anyone driving it or others think of it as a status car.

 

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2023-tesla-model-y-long-range-first-test-review/

 

https://electrek.co/2023/08/15/tesl...ttery-pack-but-with-software-locked-capacity/

Tesla’s new Models S and X have the same battery pack but with software-locked capacity


Tesla has confirmed that its new “Standard Range” Model S and Model X have the same battery pack as the Long Range version, but with its capacity being software-locked.

Late last night, Tesla launched new Standard Range versions of its Model S and Model X.

As we wrote, we suspected that Tesla could be coming back to its old ways and launching the new versions of the flagship electric sedan and SUV by simply software-locking some battery capacity in the existing Long Range versions.

After seeing that Tesla is listing the new versions as having the same weight as the Long Range for both Model S and Model X, we have reached out to Tesla Centers to ask, and Tesla advisors were able to confirm that the new Standard Range Model S and Model X are indeed software-locked Long Range vehicles.

When asked if Tesla plans to offer to unlock the battery capacity through its app for a charge in the future, we got mixed answers. A Tesla advisor at a center categorically said no, and another didn’t know the answer for sure.

In the past, Tesla has even temporarily increased the range of owners with software-locked batteries to help them escape natural disasters.

The new Standard Range Model S gets 320 miles of range, which means that 21% of the capacity has been locked from the Long Range’s battery pack.

This has been a controversial approach by Tesla, but I personally think that as long as customers know what they are buying, it’s okay.

As for unlocking the capacity in the future, I think Tesla will certainly offer it. It makes no sense not to. They would be leaving money on the table otherwise.

Also, there’s an advantage for customers to have the software capacity locked. You can charge to 100% all the time, and it shouldn’t be a problem for battery longevity.

Do you think a $10,000 discount is worth 85 fewer miles? Let us know in the comments section below

 

why nobody buy.

 

Those numbers can't be right. Is that inventory of each model in the US?

Tesla sold 127,000 Model Y in the US in Jan-Apr 2023. That's 1,040 sales per day on average. So Tesla only has 2.5 days of supply of Model Y on hand? That seems way too low.

In comparison, days of supply for legacy car makers ranges from 30 to 130 days.
https://www.coxautoinc.com/market-i...g Mach-E had,price cuts and rising incentives.

 

don't shoot the messenger.
https://tesla-info.com/blog/inventory-stats-regional/US

can't compare numbers with legacy car makers brother which have a dealership model. totally different scenario.

 

That's interesting. I wonder how a dealership system vs direct to consumer system compare in terms of efficiency and resiliency to supply chain issues.

With a 90 day supply like legacy car makers, they should be more resilient to supply chain disruptions or sudden labor shortage at the cost of adding a middleman (dealerships). Legacy car makers should also more knobs and buttons to stimulate or mute demand by adding in dealer incentives to different regions.

If Tesla only has a 2 or 3 days of supply on their vehicles, wouldn't they be extremely susceptible to supply chain disruptions? Or if their employees finally unionize and decide to strike?

 

So you end up driving around unavailable battery weight?

 

edit...i found the specs

11 kilowatt hours should be roughly 110 lbs.

 

Ya and because of varying dealer prices...incentives....you will never hear of "Toyota dropping prices.." even though it's happening all the time. Find two people who paid the same price for a Toyota...

 

Yeah, this is like GM/Caddy. When I was looking at the Cadillac ATS when it was first released, It had something like a $50-$55k MSRP (or something like that) for the car, but people were driving those off the lot for $40-$45k. lol. Whenever I see a "one-price" or "no haggle" price at dealerships/online stores, I always think "this is the price you'll pay and you have no choice". I always think I'm getting screwed with those type of sales. I used to say that back when Saturn used to sell cars with the "no-haggle" price.

 

I think I would like a Model X Plaid still.

 

Consumers just don't want to get ripped off.
But they don't trust dealers when they say no haggle price. Why should they....it's like if the selfie stick dude in front of the white house has a no haggle price..riiiiiiiiiight

I check Carmax/Carvana etc to see what used car prices are though. Gives me a good idea of trends (not necessarily the best deal).

 

Plan's working.
TSLA continuing the slide down..

 

Cruise Controlled

California regulator probes crashes involving GM's Cruise robotaxis

There was a passenger in the "autonomous vehicle", but he was too busy wanking at the intersection, as any good side gig hustler would do to efficientize time?

 

I saw this one last week and kind of chuckled. Of course, I'm not sure I completely trust humans to avoid the 1970s quicksand trap :

 

China is the new competition. Goal post moved. At least this one has merit.

Tesla is considered a luxury brand in China and the Chinese generally respect Musk. Opposite here in the states.

Teslas, and EV's in general, are a luxury.