I am surprised that you are being anti-science. Stating simple scientific facts is neither "bigotry" nor "hatred towards the 'transgender community'" (whatever that may be - these people have a right to be regarded as individuals - I am quite sure they are diverse in their opinions and might not want to be part of a "community" just because they have one thing in common with others - same goes for gays, etc.). Here is a scientist giving his take on it.
I was having a debate today with a friend who use to work on the bernie campaign and he called me transphobe and prejudice because i told him I dont support trans women in female high school sports. Its crazy how some folks on the left are quick to call everyone a transphobe because they dont support every trans issue. The amount of political capital that is spent on trans issues is insane. Do folks on the left understand that when we allow trans women to compete in female sports you're by nature disenfranchise all women by allowing trans folks to compete. Its a simple fact that trans women have huge benefits when it comes to training and healing after working out. How exactly is it fair to women that trans women get such a superior advantage? Folks dont have a "right" to compete in high school and competitive sports. Im sorry but theres alot of other avenues for competition other than profession sports. You can support trans folks without allowing them to compete with females.
The reasoning by leftists behind hurting women like this is quite simple, in their hierarchy of victimhood trans people rank higher than women. The fact that this marginalizes and hurts women doesn't matter - at all. This goes to show that a lot of outspoken support for marginalized groups is just lip service, and means nothing once someone with a higher ranking on the victimhood totem pole appears.
I don't know that it's lip service, but I do think it's misplaced. For example, a lot of early advocacy for gay marriage among the left came from a place of genuine desire to right a civic wrong: the denial of rights based on immutable characteristics. But, I think that the secular left can sometimes search for perceived social victims in the absence of solving bigger issues. Their hearts are in the right place (find a group that they think are mistreated and advocate on their behalf), but it's easily co-opted by extremists the further they go down the totem pole. By most estimates, transgender people make up less than 2% of the population. They've made remarkable social progress and are protected under the law as of a few years ago. Legally, they've won. But, the social left has gone so far down the rabbit hole of support that some are now advocating for over-representation of pretty radical post-modern thought (nothing matters other than the perception, elevation and acceptance of the self) in every day life. Once you start accusing those of us who find third person plural pronouns to be a little silly to be bigots you turn off a lot of potential supporters. At this point the chicken or the egg question about what came first (transgender advocation for more acceptance and visibility or the backlash that wants to ban federally-funded hormonal therapy for adults (see Trump's latest pledge)) is exhausting and endlessly toxic. This whole topic is tiring and pushes aside real societal issues (healthcare, taxation, economic mobility) to the side and that does a disservice to the country.
I really have no issues with trans (or any of the LGBTQ+ people) living their lives to the fullest. Have at it, enjoy you being you. But I don't think we need to "celebrate" being anything or make their sexual preference anyone else's business. It's a case of TMI - Too Much Information. Nor do I believe we should be making hiring decisions based upon someone's race, creed, color or sexual preference. What color your skin is or what your religion or sexual preference might be has no bearing upon whether you are a good person or qualified for Job-X Y or Z. I keep hearing MLK's content of character ... Either you have the core ethical values of honesty and integrity, respecting others or you don't. Maybe I oversimplify it .... Back to "trans" - Where I have issue is when what one does negatively affects another group or individual which is almost exclusively in competitive sports - that's really the only place where women have the expectation to be strictly competing directly against each other. I can't think of anything else relevant. Lea Thomas being the most notable example but there are many others of males in female sports. Austin Killips & Emily Bridges in women's cycling. Trans woman power lifter Anne Andres outlifting the competition by a whopping 463lbs. Fallon Fox in MMA. This just isn't "Fair" to biological women where the expectation is that they are on some level playing field. As Lance Armstrong recently suggested, giving these people their own platform to compete in, which might seem like a simple solution, problem is, few will to pay to watch it and there won't be any financial incentive for the competitors. Consider the huge gap between male sports $$ and that of women, just look at the US soccer team complaining about unequal pay - now imagine a niche market of trans sports .... Top WNBA salary $252,450 Top NBA salary $51,900,000 Outside of sports it doesn't matter to me one way or another. I think the reaction to Bud Light & Dylan Mulvaney was a total over reaction to .... nothing.
Dylan Mulvaney is going to be taught in every advertising school for the rest of civilization as how not to market your product this is like marketing cat food to dogs Or selling Karl Malone jerseys at a rockets shop Bud light was not a true ‘gain new customers’ campaign Like if you sold Ford trucks in Texas and you open a Ford dealership in Montana it was a case of woke failure It’s like letting the blind guy join your pickup game squad at the gym You’re not going to win but you get woke imaginary points for having a blind guy taking jump shots @Os Trigonum @basso @AroundTheWorld
Look at the poll results in this thread. Not many people here, on this supposedly very liberal board, are very supportive of many of these trans issues. You try to make it sound like all of us “leftists” all think the same. We do not all think the same. I think people are trying to figure all this out. I’m not in favor of men competing against women in sports. I don’t want men in the girls dressing room. I think someone who has XY chromosomes is a man. Woman have XX chromosomes. I know there may be some rare exceptions to those rules, but it’s rare. I’m what you call a leftist and woke, and I don’t want men competing with woman. Oh no, maybe I’m not woke.
Or maybe you just have common sense. Good to see that the handful of very loud and crazy leftists on here do not actually even represent everyone from the left. They just give all others a bad name. We all know who they are.
"gender identity" is just a subjective thing, not something objective But the only way to have fair competition is to segregate it by objective categories.
Sure, it was "poor marketing". The lesson here, for advertiser's is to "know your audience". But really, what was there to get upset about? .... some dude who wants to dress and act like a girl? We've seen it all before. No big deal and certainly nothing to get mad about. Peep show the kids at story time, I get the outrage. Lipstick on a pig on a beer can .... not so much.
They provided over can of beer to one trans person. They never marketed that one can of beer. No one else in the world could buy that one can of beer. And the party of hating "cancel culture" went berserk.
I don't think anyone was "outraged". It's more like the straw that broke the camel's back. People are just tired of feeling like they are being indoctrinated and "lectured to be accepting", even in "subtle" ways like this. They just want to drink their beer and be left in peace.
