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[Official] Astros @ Marlins

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Aug 14, 2023.

  1. mario_v

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  2. Houstunna

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    Here it is




    Interesting but not surprising

    The record includes Diaz at DH and 1B, so not just starts at catcher. He hits 2x better when he's not DHing.

    We are wasting games and wasting a season by overplaying Martin.

    #maldy125
     
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  3. Rock Block

    Rock Block Sorta here sometimes
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    We”? lol Hey man don’t lump me in with those bad decisions. :D
     
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    Cheater Altuve didn't have a problem taking off his shirt this time...
     
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    ?????
     
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    That's not what you wrote originally, but I'll let it pass, since we are all Astros fans here.
     
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    Reported
     
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    Ban
     
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    LOL

    We're in this together. Rangers too


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    GTFO
     
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    Listening to Dusty on MT radio show is depressing AF. Like a guy that know he’s about to get fired and don’t give a s***.
     
  12. marks0223

    marks0223 2017 and 2022 World Series Champions
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    All these interviews lately he acknowledges all the questions/criticisms he gets about his lineups and dismisses it saying people think I don't know what I'm doing but he's got the experience and it's not as easy as we think.
     
  13. cmlmel77

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    And yet he gives almost nothing specific about what makes it difficult or why he makes his choice, and when he does mention specifics, they are either factually wrong (“the only real difference between Maldonado and Diaz is batting average”) or so outdated as to be absurd (every comment about fan stats, citing Diaz vs LH without understanding expected stats, etc.)

    It is possible to like him and give him credit for a good clubhouse, but it is simply impossible to have any faith in his decision making process.
     
  14. Wulaw Horn

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    It's literally absolutely as easy as we think it is. Like, playing your best players almost all the time, especially when it's beyond obvious who your best players are, is not at all a difficult task. It's baseball 101. If you don't know, you also have an entire group of people dedicated to telling you what the deal is, that can provide numbers, that you can use to tell the story to guys impacted on the 26 man roster.
    Like- the only thing that doesn't make it easy is if you are a colossal jackass and insist on doing what your gut tells you at all times against logic and reason.
     
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    The sunday/day game/won the first 2 games of the series lineups are just so baffling. Its like he’s throwing the game away.
     
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    cmlmel77 Up all Night Watching Houston Sports
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    You just don’t understand. It’s a long season, and you can’t care about every game. If you win every series, you win two-thirds of 162 - best team ever. Ipso facto, if you win the first two, the third game doesn’t count.
    QED
     
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    Yeah, I am a Yankees fan registered at Clutchfans since 2004 waiting for *just* the right time to trash on Altuve.

    Nice job Sherlocks.
     
  18. IdStrosfan

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    That philosophy was fine 100 games ago, or even 50. But now it's go time.

    For the next 42 games this team must give 100% to win each and every game.

    Even if the Rangers go 22-21 the rest of the way, then the Astros must go 25-17 and win at least 1 of the head to head games remaining.

    Right now the Astros can sweep the final 3 games vs Texas and still be 1/2 game back. They no longer control their own destiny. They can't win unless Texas loses at least 4 more games than they do.
     
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    You know it was sarcasm, right? Every game matters now, and every game mattered earlier in the year too. “Series wins” is the dumbest possible statistic or reason to rest.

    Resting players occasionally is fine and necessary - playing bad players repeatedly (Julks, Maldy, Hensley, etc), resting young players more than old ones, and resting all the good players at the same time is not.

    And pitching good bullpen pitchers too often does not mathematically offset resting good hitters far too often, especially when the former happens even during blowouts.

    the “it’s a long season and you don’t understand baseball if you have any sense of urgency” crowd has been wrong all season.
     
  20. Joe Joe

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    I wasn't sure about the other poster being serious or not. I get the Astros have made the postseason a lot of years consecutively, but I think a lot of fans just assume things will go well and the Astros will be given a postseason spot. Players need rest/ time to recover from injuriesand when they get it, that is when a team can experiment. From opening day until a team has their spot in the postseason locked up (division spot preferably), the team should play their best players when those guys are healthy/fresh. I hate the phrase "sense of urgency" (which you didn't use). The team should play to win. Sense of urgency implies that it is okay to put around for 2-4 months trying to figure out if Dubon's first 8 games is represntative of his hitting or not.

    I'm a fan of load management. The Julks-Chas-Meyers rotation for the first 2-3 months was not load management. Dubon playing in the OF is not load management.
     
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