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[ official ] Trump for president 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Roc Paint, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    His hair is basically in young Trump style, you could cut glass with the stuff hanging over his forehead
     
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    I really respect this guy, he`s the type of republican that I associate with from years ago, one that you may disagree with, and you had debates about the merits of each other's points but at the end of the day you shake hands and walk away. Today when I think of a gop members like MTG or Gaetz or Bobobret, I just shake my head and wonder how we got here.....................then I turn on the news, see the 4th indictment and I snap back to reality, it was the orange man who got us here.
     
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  3. rocketsjudoka

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    It wasn’t just Trump they got us here. The GOP was already headed this way years before. Trump just exploited the situation.
     
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    My wife and I are watching Boston Legal, which aired from 2004-2009, and William Shatner's character, Denny Crane, is a staunch Republican. I know his character is over-the-top and satirical, but so many of his political talking points seem straight out of 2023. I've even told my wife that it feels like Trump used Denny Crane as a blueprint for his MAGA personality. All that to say, yes, this current Republican party has been a work in progress for a while.
     
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    Loved that show, I totally forgot about it..............Shatner and his toupee were awesome :D
     
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    I remember that show. I loved James Spaders character.
     
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  7. DaDakota

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    Trump the Traitor

    DD
     
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  8. Coach AI

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    shocking that making the reality tv dipshit behind Trump Steaks and Trump University your leader might have been a poor choice
     
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    climate change #science!
     
  10. VooDooPope

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    So what you're saying is we're averaging 2 indictments per president.
     
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  12. JoeBarelyCares

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    Looks like he goes to Eric Swalwell's barber.
     
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    The dumbing down happened well before that:
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    People forget how stupid he was. And they do the same thing they do now with Trump with saying he had some magical charisma and charisma is a type of intelligence. He was dumb.
     
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  14. JoeBarelyCares

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    My guess is they would probably give him a pass and find that as a matter of law, he did not "engage" in an insurrection, or give "aid or comfort to the enemies" of the United States. He spoke from the Ellispe in a Mafioso dialect and did not specifically give instructions to sack the Capitol. After all, he said to "peacefully walk" down to the Capitol! (although his minions didn't hear that, they heard him say "fight" 19 times). In the end, the conservatives on the Court, fearing nationwide riots and protests outside their homes, will hold that his speech was protected by the first amendment.
     
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    I blame Obama. When we put a black man in the white house, the reactionaries went crazy. Remember those cute 'post-racial America' articles from 2009?
     
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    Let the evidence speak for itself. Until anyone hears the real story from people who testified, then it's just a guess. Many of those were Trump's own people and the insurrectionists themselves. They know more than you or I do. I have a feeling a lot more went on that hasn't been made public.
     
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    This is the guy the GOP defends. This is the guy who claims to be a victim. This is what happens when con men like Trump are given power and money. He's a snake, and has slithered free his whole life. He went too far this time. He might think he can walk on water, but that's just his mindset. He's a manipulative power hungry criminal.

    These are serious charges. Close your eyes and pick any single indictment, and the penalty could very well be up to 20 years max. He won't live more than the max penalties for a couple of the 90 or so charges, if he got lucky on over 80 other charges. So, life in prison isn't much for all his crimes. A pardon would be a joke. That would encourage other politicians to do the same, if they knew committing felonies wouldn't put them behind bars.

    1) Federal 2020 election case (District of Columbia)

    Charge of conspiracy to defraud the United States, which includes plotting to overturn the results of the 2020 election. Conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, including plotting to prevent the 2020 election certification. Obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding, which includes actually blocking the certification of the 2020 election results. Conspiracy against rights, which includes a plan to deprive someone of a constitutional right (in this case, that is the ability to vote)

    2) Georgia Election Indictment

    1 count of violating the Georgia RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) Act, which is basically a catchall charge for the larger conspiracy to overturn the outcome. 3 counts of solicitation of violation of oath by a public officer, which are about Trump’s attempts to convince Georgia officials to overturn the results. 1 count of conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer. 2 counts of conspiracy to commit forgery. 2 counts of conspiracy to commit false statements and writings. 1 count of conspiracy to commit filing false documents. 1 count of filing false documents. 2 counts of making false statements and writings.

    Federal documents case (Florida)

    32 counts of willful retention of national defense information, which includes keeping classified documents related to military activities and nuclear weapons. 1 count of conspiracy to obstruct justice, which includes Trump working with an aide to hold on to classified documents and hide them from a grand jury. 1 count of withholding a document or record from an official proceeding, which included efforts to hide documents from a grand jury. 1 count of corruptly concealing a document or record from an official proceeding, which included hiding boxes with classified documents. 1 count of concealing a document in a federal investigation, which included covering up Trump’s ongoing possession of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago. 1 count of scheming to conceal information the government is seeking, which includes hiding the fact that Trump still possessed classified documents. 1 count of making false statements, which includes directing his attorneys to lie about returning all the classified documents in his possession. 2 counts of altering, destroying, or concealing information the government is seeking, which includes plans to delete security footage.

    New York state case related to hush money to Stormy Daniels

    34 felony counts. All counts are centered on falsifying business records, which Trump is accused of doing to cover up the hush money payments to Daniels.

    https://www.vox.com/trump-investigations/23832341/trump-charges-prison-time-sentence-indictment
     
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    I think a real turning point for the party was John McCain's concession speech. He gave a very gracious speech, expressing both his disappointment at losing and also the need for the country to come together. Standing next to him was Sarah Palin. 10 years later John McCain passed away after being insulted by the sitting Republican President and derided as a traitor by many in his own party. Sarah Palin's extreme views and out of touch with reality rhetoric is almost tame compared to what we hear out of the last Republican president and many prominent Republicans.
     
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    if only you can give eg.
     

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