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Another day another mass shooting

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AleksandarN, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    I was thinking the funding would be to plug a local cop in there, $61k/yr average salary, which doesn't include outfitting costs.
     
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    guess the Philly shootings don't count?
     
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    Disgusting
     
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    Meanwhile Ted Cruz fights air fryer spying, and Greg Abbott is just useless Greg. Our Texas leaders are such worthless snowflakes.
     
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    New York city either.
     
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  9. rocketsjudoka

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    I think trans people should also have to go through background checks before purchasing firearms.
     
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    @Nook is this something "important" in your eyes as you claim both parties don't do anything bs.

    The people who "both sides" everything are just as disingenuous
     
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  12. Os Trigonum

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    as long as he starts with this one:

    Hunter Biden 4473.jpg
     
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    I don’t get your point? Why don’t you actually explain what you are trying to say instead of replying with suggestive trolling.

    The Delaware background check couldn’t have been able to enforce whether or not someone filling this out smokes weed but it can give the ATF the ability to do a background check and alert the FBI of any violent criminals, people on high risk target terrorist lists, etc. are trying to buy arsenals of weapons.

    Universal background checks are obviously a smart idea even if the drug user question is irrelevant the criminal background check probably isn’t. I don’t know what Hunter Biden has to do with anything other than it’s another MAGA “but her emails” meme in the making.


     
  15. J.R.

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    “We need more gun laws when we don’t even enforce the current ones!”
    “Criminals don’t care or follow these old laws but maybe they’ll follow these new laws!?!”
    18 years old: NOOOO! You can’t do that! You’re too young to own a gun!
    5 year old wants to “change their gender”: YASSSSSSSSS! My son knew she was trans since she was 2! Let’s start that “GAC”!



    The incident occurred after Hunter’s then-romantic partner Hallie Biden disposed of his gun in a trash can near the store. When she came back to retrieve the revolver at Hunter’s direction, however, the firearm was gone. Hallie notified the grocery store of the missing gun, prompting the manager to call the police, who then questioned her and Hunter about the gun near the store’s loading dock.

    It was during this exchange that Hunter told law enforcement that “the store had some suspicious people working for it” after two employees, described in the police report as “Mexican males,” walked past the area. When a police officer asked Hunter if his comment was directed at the two men, Biden’s son doubled down and claimed they were “prolly illegal,” the police report stated.


    Government: Yeah we could have red flagged him but he would have found another way so ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sutherland-springs-victims-say-reached-1445-million-settlement-doj-rcna78245
    Lawyers for the government argued in court that even if the Air Force — which did not report Kelley's 2012 arrest and court-martial for domestic violence to the FBI — had followed the law, he would have found another way to acquire a gun to commit the same act, according to court transcripts.


    https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/non-law-enforcement-agencies-like-irs-and-epa-spend-billions-on-guns-and-ammo-watchdog-says/
    "A culture of militarization has permeated across the federal bureaucracy," Andrzejewski said in a statement. "In many cases, these agencies are stockpiling the very weapons some politicians seek to ban citizens from owning."

    Prior to a COVID-era budget increase, the IRS "owned 4,500 weapons, including AR-15 rifles, submachine guns, and 5 million rounds of ammunition," the report found. The IRS is now the general size of the 50 largest police departments in America.

    "It's not only the IRS, but dozens of other rank-and-file administrative federal agencies," Andrzejewski said. "So, just who are they preparing to battle?"

    https://www.openthebooks.com/substack-the-militarization-of-the-irs--the-facts-on-the-purchase-of-guns-ammunition-and-military-style-equipment-since-2006/
    Gun Locker (Pre-2020): the IRS owned 4,500 guns and stockpiled 5 million rounds of ammunition for use by its 2,159 special agents. These figures include 621 pump action and semi-automatic shotguns, 539 long-barrel rifles and 15 submachine guns. The IRS purchased buckshot and slugs for their shotguns. The rifles are semi-automatic Smith &Wesson M&P AR-15 and H&K rifles — the very same guns that some politicians want banned in the private-sector.

    https://dailycaller.com/2023/05/06/opinion-weaponizing-the-federal-government-turns-literal-adam-andrzejewski/
    The federal government has quite literally been arming itself to the teeth! The number of federal bureaucrats who are now authorized to carry guns and execute arrests now outnumber the entire United States Marine Corps, which has 186,000 enlisted.

    Two hundred thousand federal employees can carry, and we aren’t talking about just FBI agents or Drug Enforcement Agency employees. Departments from Health and Human Services (HHS) to Interior, from agencies like NASA to the IRS all have stockpiles of guns, ammunitions, and military-style equipment.

    Last year, our auditors at OpenTheBooks.com found 103 executive agencies outside the Defense Department spent $2.7 billion on this gear between 2006 and 2019 — and 76 of them are not traditional law enforcement but pencil-pushing agencies like the Environmental Protection Agency or Department of Agriculture.

    As of March 2023, that figure had jumped again to $3.7 billion, meaning the spending rate is steadily increasing.

    Why does NASA need a team outfitted with SWAT-like equipment and armored vehicles? Why did Health & Human Services need to spend $154 million on guns and ammo since 2006? Its 500 armed special agents place it among the top 100 local police departments by headcount. How is the Department of Veterans Affairs using the 4,000 armed officers they now employ?

    IRS, with its confiscatory powers, is growing its ranks after the passage of the so-called Inflation Reduction Act and has spent $35.2 million on weapons and gear since 2006, $10 million of that in the past three years alone. Who do they plan to fight?

    When government officials do answer, it’s usually in vague terms, citing a need to send enforcement officials into potentially dangerous situations.
     
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  16. StupidMoniker

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    The Fifth Circuit just released a case that says the denial of 2nd Amendment rights to unlawful users of drugs is unconstitutional.
     
  17. Amiga

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    that’s crazy
     
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  18. Os Trigonum

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    pretty sure there's a good chance anything he tries to do via executive order will be unconstitutional as well
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    I mean I don't want people with weed possession charges to not be able to purchase firearms.

    Often the type of people that get felony charges for weed are the most disenfranchised groups in society because law enforcement and local DAs puts a lot of resources in drug possession charges in poor minority neighborhoods.

    The only type of felony that should bar someone from purchasing firearms are violent felony charges. Any convictions that show a propensity to not control anger basically.
     

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