Kevin Porter Jr will be the Rockets MVP (most versatile player) next season

Agree 100% with your take and that's not even considering the burden of having to baby sit him.

 

This point has been overlooked a lot. Having to deal with a headcase drains a lot of coaching energy. If you bend over backward to accommodate him, you risk corrupting the team morale. If you butthead with him, you create more drama. At some point you throw up your hands and say, "It's not worthy it. I can find another guy who can do similar things without all this headache." Teams generally don't want to deal with these players unless it's superstar talent.

Christian Wood is a case in point. He's a good scoring talent. But he bounces around the league getting dumped after no more than 2 seasons each time.

 

This is true, let’s see where KPJ lands with a good coach.

DD

 

it's also about risk vs reward when dealing with headaches. Draymond gets away with it because he has a couple of championship under his belt, so they bend over backwards for him, KPJ just doesnt have the resume yet to f around.

There's a reason why the Grizzlies are still babying Ja Morant.

 

Lucky for us Porter Junior has shown an upward trajectory on and off the court. The most frequently made mistake on this BBS is the lack of realization that such progress is never a linear thing. EI, mistakes, experiences all blend together to ultimately influence on court improvement.

we have KPJ on a contract that is mutually beneficial to both parties. Porter gets paid as long as he performs and behaves, and we can cut bait at almost any given time.

The odds are extremely high that between Porter, green or Whitmore we have a quality starting SG/star level on our hands…. Maybe even two.

so we let this play out. Maybe he increases his trade value, maybe he ends up our best player, or maybe he ends up getting released. Who knows? But if you consider the argument in my post, I just never understand why he is so divisive. We didn’t pay in money or losses for him.

 

I think it all comes down to supply and demand. If the guy is a rare talent you can't easily replace, you try your best to tolerate him. (Draymond even though not a superstar is that kind of hard to replace talent. Another similar case is Dennis Rodman.) KPJ is just not special enough to command that kind of tolerance. He's not a bad player if put in the right role. But there are plenty of shooting guards who can do what he does without the baggage.

 

Always interesting to see what other NBA players think of a guy's talent. Former All-star and World Champ Jeff Teague thinks KPJ has some skills.



I guess not just anyone can drop 50 on Jrue

 

Not on Jrue, but...

Spoiler

 

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What I heard was the panel felt KPJ was still going to do his thing despite what Ime says.

 

But can they talk about the 50 game Eric Fun Gordon had against Utah....

 

No, there aren't that is the difference, when Lebron and Dame are calling him out as a future star, they see what I see......not sure why others don't....but you nailed it....I think he is a special talent - you don't.

His ability to score the ball, by beating his man consistently off the dribble is rare.....he is the only Rocket that can get anywhere on the court he wants.

DD

 

I'm pretty sure they were saying that KPJ will still be allowed to do his thing because "he's cold" ...."yeah, he's cold" as the two NBA players said.

 

players are the worst judges of talent out there

 

Not worse than this BBS. Our evaluation is pretty poor overall....tbh....we fans don't really stay nuetral.

DD

 

i'm not sure that's actually true (in fact, i would say it's not), i don't think lebron would necessary be a better GM then a lot of the fans on here. Most players value guys that can "put you in the mix" and do cool/fancy one on one stuff, the jordan/kobe stuff. That's why they'll always speak much more highly of a no defense low efficiency SG who's completely worthless over a pj tucker/shane battier type player, that actually helps you win games.

Something also tells me lebron ain't exactly going to basketball reference or any other data driven site before he makes his "evaluations"

 

Lol. Players and fans are different. Fans think they know but players know. Its no way in hell KPJ is that far down the Rockets depth chart.

 

Lol. Players and fans are different. Fans think they know but players know. Its no way in hell KPJ is that far down the Rockets depth chart.

 

Stats only guys are some of the worst evaluators of talent - LeBron plays the game he knows who is good and who isn't.

I have a funny story, one of my good friends runs an elite camp for Basketball and they track everything during their camps, and give out data etc at the end for players to work on etc.

About 3 years ago they realized they were tracking everything BUT wins and losses in scrimmages, and as soon as they started doing that they found players that contributed to winning but in all the other metrics they were just not that good....there were guys who just NEVER LOST but they weren't all that great on the numbers.

They now track that, as guys and girls that contribute to winning but not racking up stats are more important than what all those numbers show. If all you did was track BBall reference, or Raptor or hell any of those metrics, you would miss those guys....who win.

DD