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Alperen Sengun is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. PeterKingX

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    If Sengun was drafted by the Spurs, they would build the team around him. Sengun is Spurs type players.
     
  2. xtruroyaltyx

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    He definitely looks taller to me.
     
  3. AlperenSengun

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    His physical limitations at the time of the draft was a blessing for the rockets that caused him to fall down.

    it will be crazy if something similar happens with cam whitmore as well.
     
  4. AlperenSengun

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    Taller, faster, slimmer, stronger… a lot of physical change.
     
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    Al-P just puts a big grin on your face. He is showing out! Next season is gonna be so much fun to watch.
     
  6. Dr of Dunk

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    Well, apparently not, since they drafted Josh Primo probably about 10-15 spots too early, instead. If they wanted Sengun at that point, they could've had him since he went 4 spots later after the Rockets moved up to get him. How's Josh Primo doing?
     
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  7. PeterKingX

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    They just did not realize Sengun this good
     
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    I’m pretty sure he scored 14 consecutive points for Turkey from 70 to 84 in the 4th. That‘s just ridiculous
     
  9. Dr of Dunk

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    So they didn't realize Sengun was this good, but they would've built the team around him? Got it.
     
  10. meh

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    Really stretching it to say Sengun is a Spurs type of player when they took Josh Primo of all guys over him.
     
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  12. CXbby

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    Oh I didn’t mean Rockets fans either by “we”, I meant the early truthers in here.
     
  13. Tuckmose

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    I'm glad the Rockets finally got "revenge" for the Morris over Leonard debacle back in 2011.

    At least Morris played a decade in the league.
     
  14. MrButtocks

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    I think he's saying that if the Spurs saw Sengun's NBA potential they would prioritize his opportunities, but they just didn't see it at the time of the draft.

    In the 1996 draft, Indiana passed on Jermaine O'Neal to draft Erick Dampier at #10. Portland eventually drafted O'Neal at #17 where he spent four seasons barely cracking the rotation, averaging 11.5mpg. Indiana traded Dale Davis for O'Neal and made him a starter from day one. They passed on him a few years before but gave him the reigns once they actually got him.
     
  15. PeterKingX

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    We drafted Dillon Brooks and traded him for air, then we sign this guy with 80 million dollars after a couple seasons.
     
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    I never quite got why FIBA rules differ so much from the NBA, considering America was the nation to both invent and popularize the sport, and is by far the largest basketball market and talent pool.

    It would be like if the WBC had a different strike zone and foul ball rules to MLB, which is funny because the top baseball league in the world is less american (about 66-75%) than the top basketball league (around 75-85%, both numbers depending on how you count 2nd generation immigrants)
     
  17. Dr of Dunk

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    Back then I think the Blazers were loaded at C/PF, not to mention 25-30 years ago, it wasn't common for high schoolers to get much time on the court unless they were exceptional, which I don't think O'Neal was at the time. But... regarding the potential - I'm sure that's true of any team, no? If they see the potential, they would draft him first and then prioritize his opportunities. I'm guessing the Rockets priorities last year were to tank. Now with Ime at the wheel (supposedly), let's see what happens with Sengun if and when given the opportunity. The fact that Primo was their priority over Sengun in the draft kind of speaks volumes, though. Even at that time, I don't think most people had Primo ranked that high.

    To give him an opportunity, they had to get him, and to get him, they had to realize he was that good. They had the opportunity, but they chose not to get him. But hey, they saw Primo's potential and he spent most of the time in G-League and the bench developing, so there's that.

    So you're saying all teams have good moves and bad moves? I can agree with that, but what does this have to with your Spurs statement that they would've developed him better? They didn't even think highly enough to draft him.
     
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    Last time Silas saw our guys (Sengun and Destiny) show out in FIBA action he benched them.. Hope Ime doesn't do the same, lol
     
  19. Dr of Dunk

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    I don't know, but this isn't just a FIBA thing. WNBA being different, I can understand, but high school, college, NBA, FIBA, etc. all have different dimensions for a lot of things. The worst part is the 3-point distance because everybody starts comparing high school and college shooting with NBA shooting. High school basketball is like 3-4 feet shorter on their 3's than the NBA.

    FIBA's court dimensions being different is probably due to the metric system and trying to get to whole numbers, but that's just a guess. I don't know. I'd have to look at the numbers.
     
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    This got me to look back to the Brooks trade at the 2017 draft which I pretty much had almost forgotten. The trail was quite interesting.

    We traded Brooks for a second round pick next year (2018).
    We used the pick to get De'Anthony Melton.
    Melton was used as a sweetener for dumping Ryan Anderson's stinking contract and got back two smaller stinking contracts in Chriss and Knight.
    Chriss and Knight were traded the next year in a complicated 3-way. In that trade, we also traded a second round pick to the Kings.
    The next year, the Kings traded that second round pick which was Kenyon Martin Jr. back to us for cash and another second round pick.
    3 years later, KMJ was part of a gigantic complicated 5-way that got us Dillon Brooks.
     

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