I will say this…. Jalen’s performances did impact winning a lot last season, but…. Jalen would jack up so many shots, so of course it determined the outcome at times. Hard to win when one guy goes 4-25! Give some of those shots to others, maybe we win a few more games. At best, he was our 3rd best player. I’m a big fan of his, but he was disappointing last season and I expect him to be better moving forward
You are missing the point entirely, and also making his point for him with this post. You posted a dumb metric to compare the two players, one that clearly favored Jalen due to his role. He is demonstrating that by posting an equally dumb metric to compare the two players, but using one that clearly favors Sengun based on his role/size. The point is that these are both dumb and reductive ways to compare the two players.
Nah YOU'RE missing the point entirely. This was a discussion on who teams game plan for on defense, not who is more efficient. Who do you plan for on offense: The guy routinely scoring over 20 points OR The guy routinely scoring under 15 points? That's the discussion.
You plan for the efficient guy. The plan for the inefficient guy is to let him shoot (and force him into his inefficient spots). Teams did that with Westbrook for years.
Yeah it seems like the point is still going over your head. Reducing the argument to "the guy scoring over 20 points or the guy scoring under 15" is just dumb. There is a lot more to it than that.
Also, teams can gameplan for both players. It's not an either or. You don't only have to pick one. The original claim was that NOBODY gameplans to stop Sengun, which is just totally untrue.
In 04/05 Nash was fourth on the Phoenix Suns in scoring average. Amare averaged 26ppg while Nash averaged 15.5. I hope you realize Nash was the main factor of that offense despite the scoring discrepancy between him and Amare, not to mention the league MVP. I already mentioned Jason Kidd who struggled to score 15ppg and wasn't efficient, but he was the main focal point of defenses as well.
Omer Yurtseven with 23P / 20R against Italy, while Alpi not given any minutes by the coach... he should have stayed at Houston and work on his game.
The end of regular time in that game was crazy. Couldn't find a video that would air in the us. Can I upload from my computer? Italy up 3 pts and shooting 2 fts with 12 seconds left. Misses both free throws, rebound taken by Yurtseven, who in turn turns the ball over to the player who missed the 2 fts. With 5 seconds left on the clock and 3 pts up, this genius player takes a 3 pt shot, only to miss it and rebound taken by the turks and they make a full court shot to tie the game and take it to overtime.
This is the basket from Sadik Emir Kabaca, a teammate of Alp from nursing team and Spurs Summer League player: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kYhxyggDGt4
Is Austin Reeves a better player than Alperan Sengun? Your blind spot in your entire premise about better players based on efficiencies.... Efficiency can be a cause based on how you only analyze it by attributing efficiency to who's better with no context OR it could be an EFFECT of something else like roles. Green is game planned for more therefore it's harder for him to score efficiently like Sengun. Look at the assists given to each other and their respective on/off efficiency when the other is not on the court with them. Sengun benefits from Green's gravity more than the other way around. Sengun's limitation of only shooting in the painted area and very often just giving up on wide open shots shrinks the the floor tightening the spacing. This is why KPJ and Green see many doubles off screens especially from Sengun. It's not just that he is a "bad shooter"(his ft percentage and form say otherwise), it's that he just refuses to take them or hesitates and hitches on his shot making him basically a non threat anywhere outside the paint. Green is creating at all three levels which makes the opposing defense pay attention more to that. His efficiency dips even more because of his role as the bail out guy when the offense stagnates and the ball is in the hands of a player who can't create a shot with like 7 seconds remaining. They won't give the ball to Sengun for that unless it's he's open rolling to the rim. They instinctively look for Green first and then Porter because those two are the best at creating something out of nothing on the team on any part of a half court set. Sengun can create something out of nothing but it's limited to specific parts of the half court.
Such a bad take. We had a horrible coach who only gave it green and Porter when he should have gave it Sengun who created our biggest mismatch and best scoring option. You have no idea where he can create offense from cuz our coach was too dumb use him. Who says he has to be in the post? Who knows how much more he woulda developed if we just tried it.
I watched pretty much every game outside of a few. Sengun literally did triple pump fakes at the three point line without a defender within 5 ft of him. Our starting guards constantly get doubled off of screens especially with Sengun as the screener.
It doesn't matter. He doesn't have to score. If we ran some off ball action he can just make a pass ala Sabonis. Sabonis isn't the best shooter they left him open in the playoffs but the offense was still tops in the league. Sengun doesn't have to score to make a play that's the best part about it. He's the best at getting everyone involved while everyone else just plays for themselves. Yes our guards got doubled cuz they played it wrong. Give Sengun the ball and have guards cut or run off him. Then he can create much easier. No one wants to see ISO offense anymore. As long as Sengun is a threat to pass or drive it still leaves defenders helpless. But just giving it to him and clearing out is dumb because you are taking away his best asset.
Okay man. I literally said Green is responsible for attempts with seconds remaining to create something from any random spot in a half court set. So I'm referring to scoring. And that is going to effect his efficiency when teammates instinctively pass him the ball with 6 seconds left in the shot clock.
Silas said it himself that he discouraged Sengun to shoot the 3. That's why he was very hesitant even when he was wide open at the 3pt line. Coaching did have a big part in it. It was very clear that Silas either did not know how or was not willing to run an offense that was not guard-centric. The big man game seemed to be just an after thought to him. Both Sengun and Jabari were very much misused.
