Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

If you can’t trust our system to be fair enough, then you already have problems of political prosecution. Secret service protection or not, it won’t make a big difference in a system that can be that corrupted.

 

It happened because Trump lied to and convinced most of his followers that the election was stolen.

 

Yes even though there was video inside counting rooms and Trump’s team couldn’t win a case in Federal or state courts proving fraud and Trumps lawyers are admitting to lying.

This is another example of not taking responsibility and just creating grievances.

 

This past week Republicans have brought up 911 and the JFK assassination and JFK Jr death figure in QAnon conspiracies so why not bring up Waco.

 

Everyone here should watch this....really moving.

Sad

 

What? You absolutely don't have to put the defendant on the stand to introduce evidence of the defendant's state of mind. If that was required, the prosecution would never be able to win a case (outside of strict liability offenses), because we could never prove the mens rea. Evidence of the defendant's state of mind is admitted all the time by both sides without putting the defendant on the stand.

 

The whole thing was sketchy from day 1, Trump did not convince anyone of anything. There is a large number of people in this country who don't trust the 2020 election based on how things unfolded. Trump believed and still believes the election was rigged, mail in voting in such large numbers was bound to be unreliable. The topic is old, no one is changing anyone's mind. People don't trust the 2020 election, you can blame Trump all you want but if Trump came out today and said there was no election fraud people would still follow their instincts and how weird those ballots over night were.... I hope 2024 goes smoothly, the winner does not matter. The integrity of the election does.

 

Your legal theories change in every thread and its hilarious seriously. May God give you some wisdom my friend bcz youre lacking it

 

The thing that the MAGA world doesnt understand is that it makes no difference whether he believed the election was stolen or not. he has the right to believe the election was stolen and he had the right to file lawsuits and challenge the results of the election.

What he did not have the right to do was change electors and set up a fake scheme to replace the original electors. The maga world doesnt understand so its pointless to debate with them. They dont even understand the indictment.

 

And what you dumb liberal wokies never understood is that MAGA country wants Trump to not stand pat and accept the weird 2020 election. Democrats have played this in the worst possible way. Virtually causing division and going after Trump keeping his name in the news and turning him into a martyr. He continues to trend up in polls, don't want to see ya'll crying and b*****ing for 4 years if he wins again. Should have let it all die when they had a chance but they wanted to put him away instead.

 

You can call me whatever words you want. Scum, groomer, moron, whatever floats your boat man. No matter how loud you yell or scream it makes no difference to the facts on hand.

Trump had no business finding alternative electors when that's illegal. If he thought the election was stolen there's procedural ways to go about that. Court challenges, audits, recounts, etc. He lost 72 court cases, 17 audits, 3 hand recounts and you somehow think it's okay for him to call for fake electors after he exhausted every legal option lmao

man I love talking to MAGAts. The dumbest cult ever known to man kind. The hilarious thing is how they think their somehow educated or knowledgeable lololol

 

1. There was nothing “weird” about the 2020 election, other than Trump throwing a temper tantrum and then trying to prevent the transfer of power.
2. Trump was never going away. He makes too much money conning his followers out of money by staying out front and center.
3. Trump and the GOP are the ones trying to divide America. Culture wars is what they are all about.
4. It would be wrong to turn a blind eye to Trumps crimes. He has to be held accountable. Rich and famous cannot get a free pass when they break the law.
5. All of Trumps problems have been caused by Trump. He has no one to blame but himself.

 

MAGA cult is crazy

 

What was sketchy about it? That Trump lost? I guess the millions of people celebrating his loss all over the country during a pandemic didn't spell it out for you.

 

Are you suggesting that if Trump hadn't repeatedly lied leading up to Jan 6 and hadn't delivered that speech on Jan 6, the events of that day would still have unfolded? I don't think even you believe that.

I understand your belief in the 2020 widespread election fraud, but the seeds of doubt were sown well before election day when Trump stated, 'the only way I lose is if there is cheating.' These doubts blossomed when he lost but refused to accept defeat, leading to the promotion of numerous conspiracies from that very night. Once such a belief takes root, it becomes almost impossible to change someone's mind. The opinions of election security officials, who declared the 2020 election 'the most secure election in American history,' and even Republicans directly informing Trump of his loss and confirming no widespread fraud, hold no relevance. Even the fact that the 2020 election saw an unprecedented number of lawsuits (63+ and counting), with Trump losing almost all of them, seems to have no effect. It's as if, once the belief took root, true believers become resistant to sound reason or logic. This belief started to root very early on, starting with the seeds planted by Trump well before the election.

"People don't trust" isn't accurate. Only Republicans constitute the group that believes the 2020 election was stolen.

 

This!

 

That's because of Trump filling the MAGA cult's brain washable minds with all his BS months before the election. Nobody else believed all his mail in voting BS. Only fools fell for his crap at MAGA rallies. He lied because he was terrified of losing to Biden. Of course he accused everyone of fraud when he lost. He's so damn transparent. His big fat ego and lust for power drove him to do the unthinkable. It's not rocket science with that child in an old unfit man's body.

 

I seriously believe Biden does not win the election without the pandemic, there were warnings about mail in voting long before and dems pushed mail in voting. Results should have been given election night, we had to wait for several drops due to those mail in votes. I know what the wokes are going to say, "it was the safest election of all time" "there was no proof of fraud".... Its been repeated non stop but that's bs. People won't just change their minds on the ****e*y that happened that night. Whether the election was rigged or not people made up their minds that very night, I don't trust Biden. I don't trust the administration and they have given me zero reason to trust them. Aside from the atrocious way he has handled immigration and Ukraine not to mention the economy he has been plain bad. He has, its not a conspiracy. Its the truth. I just can't fathom how many people voted for this incompetent and shady old man with a crack head criminal son alongside known evidence that Biden himself could have very well been involved in said crimes.

I think Trump could have handled it better, I think he was short sighted. I think he would be in better shape today had he conceded early. Would he have conceded early without the mail in voting thou? I think so. Jan 6 was not an insurrection, it was the result of a poorly handled election amidst a global pandemic. It was handled poorly, whether you loved the results or hated them it was a disaster. People won't let it go, they won't. Try and attach Trump to Jan 6 all you want. Say he led it, he incited it. Arrest him, it won't change anyone's mind. Trump will run Republican come 2024 unless by some miracle Dems find a way to keep him off the ballot. They know that if Trump has another shot they very would could lose 2024. If Maga country is small and only a few cultist believe him why worry about it? Because they know things could turn into a nightmare for them in 2024 without the pandemic looming.