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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thegary, Mar 19, 2022.

  1. Invisible Fan

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    Delaware is actually one of the sleaziest states and home to porous governance of corporate and financial firms. It's so bad that the Panama Papers claimed Delaware banks are even worse, which is why you didn't see many Americans in the list.

    Joe took that vow for not owning stocks to wash his hands of that image and watching his other buddies in Congress making a killing off of"legal" stock investments was probably one of the most difficult things he had to personally navigate.

    Beau being the golden boy with a fast track to political office while Hunter did the dirty work as a lobbyist/legal/corporate advisor obviously did a number on him as everyone admitted he supported the entire family. You don't make upper 6 digit salaries by going into military service.

    As for what really happened, beats me. I think people get lost in the weeds and tribalist knee jerking when the problem isn't unique or even first page scandalous anymore. If neither party will react, then it's continuous race to the bottom until something really breaks.

    Bear in mind the GOP steeled themselves against Trump impeachment/conviction by invoking Nixon as a failure among those GOP Senators wanting to convict him by branding them as traitors rather than officials upholding their oath to the Constitution.

    I can't feel much sympathy from the other side's outrage, though to truly fix this, every pleb apolitical to party will need to stand up and demand better.
     
  2. TheFreak

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    Decided to pop in and have to admit a plea from several to be nicer to the trolls is not what I expected.
     
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  3. astros123

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    How dare we call the fascists who want to destroy this country any mean words! How dare you! We have to let them spread their conspiracies uninterrupted even after you've exposed their talking points over and over.

    These folks want to destroy America and everything it stands for.
     
  4. AroundTheWorld

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    lol you are so over the top dude
     
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    Just because Joe Biden didn't "take the lead" on these calls, doesn't mean he didn't have a persuasive role just by his presence. Why would he need to be brought in to say HOWDY and talk about the weather and the grandchildren... 20 or so times?

    There are other sources than Devin Archer. This world has become so political with underhanded fighting that it's hard to figure out. Let's not forget the whole Russian Collusion farce that was heaped upon Trump from every direction: spying, fake dossier etc. Pelosi TALKED ABOUT PLANS to impeach him before his first day in office!
     
  7. Os Trigonum

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    couldn't find any early talk by Pelosi about impeaching Trump, but did see this Dec. 15, 2016 article

    Democrats Are Paving the Way to Impeach Donald Trump

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/democrats-pave-the-way-to-impeach-donald-trump

    excerpt:

    On Thursday, five Democratic senators announced a bill they plan to release next month that would require Trump to divest assets that could pose a conflict of interest, according to Politico. The bill, put forward by Elizabeth Warren, Dick Durbin, Chris Coons, Ben Cardin, and Jeff Merkley, would require the president-elect to put the proceeds of the sale in a blind trust (the true definition of which does not mean merely handing “business operations” to one’s children, despite what Trump has said). The legislation would symbolically make violations of federal conflict-of-interest rules “a high crime or misdemeanor under the impeachment clause of the U.S. Constitution.”
    more
     
  8. dmoneybangbang

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    You can't make the case in court or Congress..... so just make the case over twitter...... And you actually believe it.... Bless your heart.
     
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    After 5 years..... and you still can't prove in a court or in Congress?

    Oh yea...... need another 5 years? Maybe you can find another foreign agent to testify against Hunter/Joe......?

    The GOP initially funded Fusion GPS against Trump.

    Trump campaign met with and shared information with Russian back associates during the 2016 campaign.

    Russia preferred Trump over Hillary Clinton during the 2016 campaign.

    GOP and conservative coordinated elections lie, so you don't have much credibility.......
     
  10. giddyup

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    You're throwing mud here. Reportedly there have been private communications and a money trail. How do you explain a sitting VP (busy job) wasting his time listening in on his son's conference calls with foreign business partners? Doesn't he have other responsibilities and didn't he say he never talked with his son about his business affairs? What father EVER says that?

    Yes and they quickly abandoned it. Shows just how much Trump was up against-- even his own party.

    Hillary and the Dems picked it up and ILLEGALLY got FISA warrants (oops) to surveil Trump.

    To what exactly are you referring? Hard to answer broad swipes. Many preferred Trump over Hillary.

    Again, just a blind broad claim with no substance. I get it; you vote Democrat!
     
  11. giddyup

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    (2019) Speaker Pelosi: “All I hear from the press is that we’re moving so swiftly, that it’s like a blur going by. This has been a couple of years—two and a half—since the initial investigation.”

    I remember reading more direct comments she made years ago. Searching is difficult because there have been two impeachments of Trump since her early rumblings. I'm sure it is still out there but I'm not going to spend the time looknig. I remember what I read back then.
     
  12. dmoneybangbang

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    Fantastic, so y’all have all evidence you need to actually move foreword instead of talking about it?

    Or you need another 5 years?


    Trump winning the nominee changed that….

    You are right, Trump donated heavily to democrats until he saw conservatives were a better mark.

    Maybe Trump should have picked his associates better…. He got caught sharing info with Russian backed associates.


    Lol…. Just stop…. I clearly said Russia. Trump loves Putin and Xi.

    So why did FOX settle then if there’s no substance?

    Why did your side embarrassingly lose in court so many times?

    I get it, you vote GOP so you can’t handle the truth.
     
  13. dmoneybangbang

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    Lol…. Y’all got nothing so all you are doing is trying to make your case to the public because you can’t in court or in Congressional investigation.
     
  14. rocketsjudoka

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    Your quote shows that Pelosi wasn’t determined to impeach Trump from the get go. Investigations aren’t the same impeachment otherwise then you could say that the GOP
    Congress was determined to
    Impeach Obama because they were investigating his Administration from the when they took the majority.
     
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    Also to note that even Durham acknowledged that whatever the Hillary Clinton campaign might’ve given to the Doj wasn’t the reason for the FISA warrants on Trump. And people seem to forget that the DOJ was also openly investigating Hillary Clinton as the same time.
     
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    Conservatives have amnesia about Clinton being investigated during the campaign and the GOP FBI director making a pretty public declaration just weeks before the vote….

    And now I guess…. Conservatives such as William Barr, Mark Meadows, and Mike Pence are members of the deep state,
     
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    How dare you call these people the scumbag losers they are! You can't say mean words ! We have to allow them to spread disinformation or the braindead MAGAts will claim censorship @Os Trigonum !

    How dare we trust the corrupt ukrianian who was money laundering more than we trust the US senate and European council lmaooo

    At some point people will wake the **** up
     
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    Gotta join the dogpile. @astros123 is smart and educated on politics. I often agree with him. But the personal insults hurt the conversation.
     
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    Imagine if bernie Madoff did a video from prison talking about how hes innocent and how the the victims were the true criminals. We've gotten to the point where MAGAts would rather believe the corrupt prosector over republicans in the senate and europeans who had nothing to do with UKR.

    This is where we are as a society and folks on these boards call me out and tell im a troll and disrespectful.

    Truly fascinating
     

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