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UT and OU Reaching Out to Join SEC

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by MadMax, Jul 21, 2021.

  1. Major

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    Maybe, maybe no.

    https://www.espn.com/college-footba...consider-leaving-acc-due-revenue-distribution

    To get out of the league, Florida State would have to pay a $120 million exit fee and go to court to challenge the existing grant of rights, which gives the ACC media rights for its member schools through the length of the contract.

    No school has gone to court yet to challenge the grant of rights, which exists in every Power 5 conference. Florida State, along with other schools in the ACC, has studied the contract language in the grant of rights for more a year.

    In an interview with ESPN earlier Wednesday, Florida State athletic director Michael Alford said, "We have a great understanding of what opportunities there are in that document. How that document could hold us back, but also what the opportunities are. So this is going to be a discussion. We'll keep getting legal advice. Our legal team has a good understanding of that document."

    When asked for a timeline on when Florida State might act, McCullough told ESPN that falling $30 million behind annually is "not a sustainable position for us. The timing for us to do something radical is not known, but it's not 2036."
     
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    Karpman doesn't make **** up. Looks like the this could be wrapped up by the end of the week.

    Amazing we haven't heard anything from Utah yet.
     
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    I kinda lowkey hope this ends up being the setup when it's all said and done.

    [​IMG]

    Much more cohesive regionally and the BBall would be out of this world.

    (note: this post may or may not have been inspired by a negative interaction with some real a**hole Utah fans)

    Edit: if you think about it and squint a bit, it's kind of like the PAC, Big 8, SWC, and Big East all got together and had a baby.
     
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    Arizona come on down!
     
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    Oregon is balking at the Big 10 offer it seems. Arizona has conflicting reports on whether it stays or leaves. Arizona State and Utah are being petulant. I don't think Oregon will take less money than the other B10 programs. This could go a number of different ways.

    I'd love to just take Arizona, Memphis and UConn and just make the basketball version of the SEC. Then when the ACC blows up you attract Duke, North Carolina, Virginia and Louisville. You'd still be making the football playoff but it would comfortably be the best basketball conference ever.
     
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    Oregon has no leverage, so good luck with that, quackers.

    If you're Utah and AZ State, you need to get your head out of your asses and realize that the PAC is, under no circumstances, surviving beyond 2030.

    Either OUW leave now and it falls apart immediately, or they leave in 2030 and it falls apart then. Chances are they leave immediately, because if I'm OUW a partial B1G share or full Big 12 share is a HELL of a lot better than a full PAC share right now.

    Either way, Utah and AZ State will need to move, otherwise they will find themselves in the MWC (either in name or in budget). Might as well get while the getting is good instead of waiting for 2030 when the situation may be worse for you.

    I've seen a lot of Big 12 support for stopping at 14 with AZ only in anticipation of raiding the ACC in 2035~. I can't say those people are wrong. Programs like Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, NC State, Pitt, and Virginia Tech are tempting. I think you take Utah/ASU if possible though and worry about the ACC when and if you get there.
     
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    It's over
     
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    Fs in the chat for WAZZU and the beavers
     
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    This is fine. We remain committed to the PAC-12. We expect to work out a great TV deal after the season is over. No worries.
    This is fine. We remain committed to the PAC-12. Deal should be wrapped up by the summer. No worries.
    This is fine. We remain committed to the PAC-12. TV deal is coming along nicely. No worries.
    This is fine. We remain committed to the PAC-12. TV deal is still coming along, just working on some details. No worries.
    This is fine. We remain committed to the PAC-12. Still working on some details. Should be done soon. No worries.
    [This…is your TV deal?]
    Colorado is leaving the PAC-12.
    Arizona is leaving the PAC-12.
    Washington is leaving the PAC-12.
    Oregon is leaving the PAC-12.

    RIP.
     
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    Unbelievable combination of arrogance, stupidity and delusions of grandeur from institutions that supposedly pride themselves on their academics.

    Rest in Regret Pac-12.
     
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    It's truly insane how this went down.

    Larry Scott and his enablers drove this thing into the ditch.

    Kliavkoff could have salvaged it, or at least delayed the inevitable, but instead he set it on fire.

    The only question now is who survives between the MWC and PAC.
     
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    This will become a case study on stakeholder management. Even from a football perspective, the nonstop cannibalization the Pac-12 did and their stupid early season out-of-conference games put all of their good teams behind the eight ball and left them outside the playoff for too long.
     
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    The real damage was when they got sold a bill of good from Larry Scott about how easy and profitable the PAC Network was going to be.

    They ended up ******** the bed all over the place with that, and the rest was history.
     
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    Remember when we used to talk about how the Pac 12 wouldn’t take Texas Tech in (along with Texas) because of academics? Yeah, pretending that this was ever going to be about anything other than money was a massive misread of the room, and it cost them big time.
     
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    It was a combo of elitism and thinking they were invulnerable.

    Imagine how ****ed the Big 12 would be right now if they had thumbed their noses at expansion and sat idly by while the PAC negotiated their deal thinking they would surely be in line for a massive B1G level raise.

    I want to blame Kliavkoff, but really he was just a normal idiot over matched by the moment. The real damage was done by the PAC university presidents over a decade ago. Their behavior in the last 2 years simply accelerated the inevitable.
     
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