In a specific deal for ownership of a Chinese energy business, H was holding 10% for the big guy. Hunter also separately said to his other family members that his dad made him give half his income to the family. This isn't a contradiction, they are two separate things.
Just for the record none of this has been proven and @StupidMoniker knows but he wants to spew his braindead conspiracies. Hunter has NEVER on record ever said Joe ever demanded money from him or he paid Joe. The only allegations these came were from other people's. It's so funny when you realize libertarians are just as brainwashed as MAGA. You keep trying spin conspiracies and they keep falling flat. There's been ZERO evidence of Joe Biden ever getting a penny directly other than 3rd parties who never saw anything. Hunter partner just said in witness testimony that they sold the "image" of having access to Joe. Same ole braindead conspiracies. Its tiresome because they're so boring. Only the dumbest people who have done zero research believes them These people are so brainwashed. It's been 6 years of Ukraine conspiracies and China conspiracies and to this day they have found one direct link to Joe Biden other than shaddy whistleblowers who have ZERO EVIDENCE
I don't know what you mean by "on record". There has never been a trial or anything for him to give sworn testimony. There are text messages allegedly from Hunter Biden to Naomi Biden in which he says, "I love all of you. But I don't receive any respect and thats fine I guess -works for you apparently. I Hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family Fro 30 years. It's really hard. But don't worry unlike Pop I won't make you give me half your salary." There are also emails to Hunter Biden from Eric Schwerin detailing "JRB Bills". I'm sure those are all fake though.
The bit about Hunter selling the "illusion of access" is probably THE biggest loophole you need to sustain the Washington Grease in perpetuity, like an ever encompassing Swamp Thing of who knows who with what Last Names to give a casual Public Speech... I aint got time to read the transcript! Sherry!! Sherry what it say?? Devon Archer was interviewed by the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability regarding his business dealings with Hunter Biden. Archer discussed his work with Biden on the boards of Ukrainian energy company Burisma and Chinese investment fund BHR Partners. Archer stated that he and Biden were brought onto Burisma's board to help with corporate governance, provide advice, and raise capital. He said Biden helped bring in firms like Boies Schiller and Blue Star Strategies to handle Burisma's interactions with U.S. government entities. Archer testified that Biden wanted Burisma to know he had to comply with U.S. laws and not intervene directly with policymakers. Regarding BHR Partners, Archer stated that Biden was initially on the board but may have stepped down around 2015. He said Biden's role was not fundraising but rather deal-sourcing. Archer acknowledged that Biden would occasionally put his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, on speakerphone in front of business associates. However, Archer testified the calls only involved small talk and not substantive business discussions. He stated he never witnessed Biden ask his father to take any official action on behalf of his business partners. Archer said he has no knowledge of Joe Biden altering U.S. policy to benefit his son. He testified that any access Hunter Biden appeared to provide was an "illusion" and Biden never asked his father to improperly intervene in his business dealings. Here are some key questions and answers from Archer's testimony: - Republicans asked about a 2015 phone call Biden made when Burisma executives were seeking help dealing with government pressure. Archer said he did not hear the call itself but was told "they called D.C." He does not know if it was specifically to Vice President Biden. - Regarding Burisma payments, Archer confirmed money flowed into the Rosemont Seneca Bohai account which he jointly held with Biden. The funds were split between Archer, Biden, and consulting firm Tri Global. Archer testified he has no knowledge of additional $5 million payments to Bidens mentioned in an FBI memo. - On whether Hunter Biden sold access to his father, Archer stated it was "illusion of access" and the real value was Biden's experience navigating D.C. Archer said he never witnessed Biden ask his father to take official action for business partners. - Archer testified that when Biden occasionally had his father on speakerphone, the conversation was limited to pleasantries and no substantive business discussions occurred. In summary, Archer's testimony did not provide evidence to support allegations of improper influence or corruption by Joe Biden related to his son's business dealings. The key revelation appears to be that any perception Hunter Biden provided access to his father was an illusion, according to Archer. Here is a general summary of the key points from Devon Archer's testimony: Archer was invited to join the board of Burisma in early 2014 by former Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski. Hunter Biden later joined the board as well. Archer and Biden received board fees from Burisma which were paid into an entity called Rosemont Seneca Bohai LLC (RSB). The fees were split between Archer, Biden, and a third party called Tri Global. Archer testified that part of the value Biden brought to Burisma was the "Biden brand" and the perception that he could help open doors in Washington. However, Archer said Biden never directly asked his father to take any official action to benefit Burisma. Archer described several occasions where Biden had his father Joe Biden on speakerphone in front of business partners. However, the calls only involved small talk and not discussions of business dealings. In December 2015, Burisma executives apparently made a call for help dealing with government pressure. Archer was not privy to the call but was later told by one of the executives that they called "D.C." Archer does not know if this meant Biden's father specifically. Archer testified that Burisma likely wanted to create the impression they had influence, but he has no evidence of Joe Biden actually altering U.S. policy to benefit Burisma or Hunter Biden. Archer cooperated fully with a federal investigation into Biden's finances and testified truthfully before a grand jury. In terms of the key lines of questioning: Republicans asked about the payments from Burisma into RSB and Biden's role. Archer explained the fee-splitting arrangements. Republicans asked about the December 2015 call and any influence Biden had over his father's foreign policy decisions. Archer said he had no direct knowledge of what was discussed. Democrats asked if Archer had any evidence of corruption by Joe Biden regarding Burisma. Archer said he did not. Democrats asked if Biden was selling actual influence or the appearance of influence. Archer said it was just an illusion of access to his father. Both sides asked about the various times Biden had his father on speakerphone in front of business partners and whether actual business was discussed. Archer said it was all just small talk.
LOL to keep trying this same angle and it's hilarious cuz you can't get in your head that all your braindead conspiracies revolve around hunter telling other ppl. There's zero evidence of anything linking Hunter to Joe Bide. Hunter partner literally just said in sworn testimony that they used his dad's image and his dad was never involved and you're so dumb that you keep referring to what Hunter Biden said to others. No **** Sherlock Hunter would hype up his relationship with his dad when he's trying sell access. You're so dumb that you can't grasp this concept that Hunter tried selling his relationship. Biden has released his tax returns for 20+ years. You keep spinning braindead conspiracies when his returns are in the open
These people's are so stupid that it hurts my brain. There's not one audio recording or one shred of evidence that Joe Biden ever discussed business or did any sort of pay for play. These folks keep referring to a drug addict as if he was an angel. @StupidMoniker Shocking news a drug addict was desperate for cash and said dumb stuff.
Biden and co. had 4 years to prep for this Succession-like slow boil. It was always going to take more than banking on the words of Biden's best bud. GOP needs something more concrete, and it was comically negligent for them to believe this wasn't going to be a big fat loss for them like OJ wearing that glove... Ironically, GOP is also heavily favored and helped craft/maintain the current loose rules of ethically dubious while perfectly legal "influence peddling" regarding family dealing and "speech rights". Rudy and his best bud initially conceived of this half brained scheme to deflect and project away from Trump's own numerous laundry list of deals and megadeals that also don't hold any scrutiny with tighter laws that the anti-Hunter group pretends to push.
What they need is evidence that joe biden got money or peddled influence. They need to show evidence of joe biden directing the government on behalf of hunter or doing a favor for him. They cant find this aftrer 6 years and they keep spinning hunter bidens words to his partners when its well known hunter was extorting people out of $$$. They cant find anything Theres concerete evidence of everything doj are accusing trump of. Actual video and audio evidence. Imagine if the doj tried to arrest trump based only on someone elses word without any direct evidence? It would be ****ing nuts
Not only that but they are literally using people sending well wishes about Beaux Biden’s death as some sort of illusion of malfeasance. Can you imagine in front of a jury how horrible this would look? Prosecutor- “and what was the nature of that discussion from Hunter Bidens friend.” Joe Biden- “He was calling to tell me we are in his thoughts and prayers”. Missing in the context of this made up charade is the timing of all of these calls people like Stupid Mon point to as suspicious is the overwhelming event of his son and Hunter’s brother dying. Just think about how desperate and low these folks must be right now. I mean is there ANYTHING they won’t do to try and help whataboutism on behalf of Donald Trump??
You think Hunter Biden tried to hype up his relationship with Joe Biden to Naomi Biden to try to sell access? To Eric Scherwin? To Tony Bobulinski? These are not statements he is making to someone with money trying to sell access, these are statements to his own friends and family and the President of his own company. I hate to break it to you, but criminals don't always declare the real source of funds or even all of the funds they have received on their tax returns. You are free to believe what you like, but your schtick is ridiculous. No one thinks that releasing a tax return that didn't declare bribes proves someone is innocent. If you have a real explanation for why the President of Hunter's company sent him emails titled JRB Bills and listing all the bills for Hunter to pay, and a real explanation for why Hunter would tell his own daughter that President Biden took half his income, that would be great. Saying repeatedly that they don't have audio and video recordings or that Joe Biden didn't put bribes as a source of income on his tax returns is not convincing.
The emails regarding JRB bills were from 2010 and in the emails they literally detail the expenses as "ac fixing" and other house repairs that are literally details out in the emails. Whats the big deal about a son helping out a dad at a time when joe was jugging beau expenses as well? The expenses are clearly laid out and detailed and theres nothing shaddy going on. I pay for my moms expenses all the time and im sure alot of other sons do also? Doesnt mean that therse some sort of corruption LOL. good god get a grip You can never point to any action the obama admin did on behalf of hunter. This is where your braindead conspiracies always fall flat. I can name you 50 things that the Trump admin did on behalf of ivanka that are 100x worst than whatever bs you keep trying spin this as. The text messages again have never been verified so im not even going to comment on it. Hunter lawyer has already said in public that the GOP have fabricated whatsapp messages so im not going comment on unverified text messages. Nothing you prove shows that biden was receiving some sort of slushie fund. It was detailed expenses at a time hunter was doing good with his business and way before bourisma or whatever.
Good summary. To me this is the most important part: “Archer testified that Burisma likely wanted to create the impression they had influence, but he has no evidence of Joe Biden actually altering U.S. policy to benefit Burisma or Hunter Biden.” It definitely appears that Hunter Biden did sell himself as being able to provide access to Joe Biden and I will agree there is evidence that Joe Biden did get money from Hunter. What is missing though is any sort of quid pro quo or actual change in government policy. following the Trump impeachment to make the case that Joe Biden corruptly misused his position and power proving that would be key.
@StupidMoniker forgets to mention the time hunter was referring to giving "half his income" was before hunter ever worked on Ukraine or China stuff and had a legitimate job. There's nothing shaddy about a son helping a dad with house repair bills when it's laid out in detail the expenses. Hunter never gave Joe biden money for unrelated expense ever. @StupidMoniker keeps trying to make this record that Hunter w as giving Joe money but never proven other than house expenses. Even when hunter was paying Joe rent it was always market rent and was detailed out in his financials He can claim that hunter was giving Joe biden 10% or whatever but there's zero evidence of Joe Biden ever received anything on behalf of hunter. Hunter never has said on record he's given biden money for influence
I agree but was just noting that @StupidMoniker was explaining that the “half” claim was a different claim and then the “10%” claim. As I noted earlier a son giving money to parents isn’t that unusual and might not mean anything more than a dutiful son.
