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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thegary, Mar 19, 2022.

  1. Andre0087

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    The brainwashed MAGA base like...

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    I’ve seen politicians several times on campaign trails and they reflexively say hi to people so yes I can believe Joe Biden did say hi to people that he didn’t know who they were.

    Do care to answer my question?
     
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    One it’s not definitively prove n Joe Biden was taking part of Hunter Biden’s salary. Second Devon Archer’s testimony does matter as it was put forward by Comer and many even here as recently as Monday morning they it was going to be the smoking gun that gets Joe Biden.

    Are you saying now that his testimony is irrelevant?
     
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  5. Astrodome

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    I believe he may not have discussed business in front of Devin Archer if the transcript confirms Archer said that. So no, I don't think he was lying.
     
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  6. tallanvor

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    Hunter Biden has said so

    'But don’t worry, unlike pop, I won’t make you give me half your salary.'

    No. I said that whether Joe Biden negotiated the deals on the phone or Hunter did is irrelevant. It's irrelevant because Joe knew the deals were going down (thus why he takes his son's salary) and acted on them.
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm not denying there is evidence that he did but there isn't really a money trail and as noted before both Hunter Biden and Joe Biden have said a lot of stuff that isn't true or confusing.

    If Devon Archer testified that Joe Biden didn't discuss the deals then what are you basing this suppostion on? Further a son giving money to their parents isn't unusual. Ive given money to my mom and other relatives who have nothing to do with my business.
     
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    It always helped Sonny if The Godfather was listening in ... and the other party knew it.
     
  9. tallanvor

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    Hunter is lying in texts to his family about paying money to dad? you are being willfully ignorant or dishonest.

    That Joe:
    - listened to the deals being made
    - took half his son's salary despite being super rich because he was what was being sold and he knew it
    - the benefits received by those who paid off the Biden family

    Is your mom super rich? if so, why did you give her money? Again, this just seems like willful ignorance on your part.
     
  10. Rashmon

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    Oh, the irony.
     
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    But wouldn’t have Devon corroborated that….?

    And also none of that has been verified and corroborated in any official, relevant manner outside of Twitter. If what you said was actually true… then the investigation would be a in different place.
     
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    And if all this was true..... then what is the hold up with charging Hunter and/or Joe? It's been 5 years..... and your ilk even had to engage in quid pro quo in Ukraine to try and get dirt on the Biden.....

    Allegations from the NY Post aren't evidence. Tweets aren't evidence. There's a reason why your ilk went straight to the reporters instead of releasing a smoking gun transcript of Hunter's business associate.... the case isn't that strong.
     
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    You're wasting your time here. I've tried explaining but these people are low iq MAGAts who are brainwashed. They'll lick trumps ass all day spinning conspiracies for him. Pathetic @tallanvor
     
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  15. tallanvor

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    its not an allegation. its a text found on what is confirmed to be his old laptop. its real. Lots of people have access to it and have reported it including the NY Post.

    you are almost there. keep down this path
     
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    Here is the difference between Tump supporters and Biden supporters. Biden supporters don't give a damn if Biden is indicted if there is actual evidence. Archer testified Biden didn't speak business with the people Hunter was dealing with. If it is proven to a Grand Jury there is sufficient evidence Biden did illegal things. Indict him.

    Trump supporters don't care how much evidence there is against Trump they still suckle at his proverbial teat. Like he said, he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and wouldn't lose a vote. Hell they would give him bonus points if it were a Black, Muslim, transexual.
     
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    People who voted for Biden don't care about the cult of personality around Joe Biden if there even is one. It's about the Biden coalition of voters, the policies, and the principles that it stands for. The candidate who got them where they needed to in 2020 was all that mattered.

    Look at Al Franken as an example. The moment he became a liability he was gone. Some might add liberals were too quick to judge, and got played by a former right wing persona lobbing unproven accusations that weren't really that bad in comparison to actual sexual assault.

    The Democrats do have a deep bench of candidates for the future though, and if Biden was to need to bow out as long as the candidate can stretch across the coalition the way Biden can, 99.9% of Dem voters wouldn't shed a tear for him, and would move on in two shakes.

    So far the only question is age, and as long as he keeps on showing up, riding bikes, etc. he's not going anywhere. When he's at a point where Diane Feinstein is now, yeah he needs to go. Yes he's likely to decline fast in a couple years, but right now for 2024 so far, we have no right to tell someone who is fit to do something with their life at that age to do it.
     
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    And if the texts were as damning as you claim, this investigation would be in a different phase…. But the GOP is choosing to use the media to make their case instead of congressional investigation.

    We are seeing how much the GOP coordinated lies in regards to the Election Lie, why not now too?
     
  20. B-Bob

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    Can someone in as unbiased a way as possible lead me through this?

    Is the worst claim here that Biden's son sold access and influence over his father?
    I mean, I know the answer to my rhetorical question, but if we just assume for argument* that Biden has totally done what the right is alleging he did (conferring favors on one of Hunter's business partners somehow, and hey, buying bad art and then getting an appointment might count I guess), how is that different than prominent tycoons taking USSC justices on an all-expenses-paid vaca or buying houses for them or different than all the weird Trump family stuff (like the one you cite where the family was constantly selling access to the White House, which is so well documented as happening for years)? Why does nothing happen in these other cases but we want something to happen in the Hunter Biden case?

    TL;DR: If an elected or appointed US gov official uses their position to somehow benefit a family member, that's a bad look, ethically challenged, but what is the follow up / prosecution / fine supposed to be exactly? I honestly don't know b/c it seems like nobody cares anymore based on the last many years.

    * = I have no idea exactly what Joe Biden did for his son and haven't seen much evidence of anything yet.
     
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