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Senator Tuberville hates the military

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Jun 25, 2023.

  1. Deckard

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    You enjoy being dishonest, don't you.
     
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    LOL 40 years ago..... I guess that's how a conservative mind works...... never change or evolve.
     
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    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I have found a solution for them, don't give extra leave and travel expenses to service members to go get abortions. That was easy.
     
  5. Amiga

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    As an extremist, military readiness involves imposing your views on everyone else.
     
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    He was a shitty coach and only reinforces the belief that football coaches ain't all that bright.

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    Republicans don't give a damn about our military or anyone else. They are hellbent on just refusing to work with Democrats for the people. All the Republicans are hell bent on is impeaching Biden, defending Trump, shipping immigrants to Democratic cities, spreading hate and lies, stirring up hate against the LGBQT community, and spreading QKook propaganda.

    They don't want to propose plans to address healthcare needs, poverty, homelessness, gun violence, equality, discrimination, police violence and corruption, or anything like that. They'd rather sit and tweet WOKE this, WOKE that, Go Woke Go Broke, Democrats are Fascists, Marxists, Communists, Socialists, pedophiles, groomers, blah blah blah. They don't do anything useful, and take a month break with pay, while leaving the military in limbo.
     
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    I found a better solution. Provide the military the same level of access to abortion in all states so that people in some states aren't penalized for where they are stationed. Heck, make that all people in all states. That was even easier.
     
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    That is really up to the states. There is no Article 1 Section 8 power to require states to provide legal access to abortion. Looks like we are both smarter than the Senate, because they couldn't find one solution. We each found 1 in a day (even if yours is unconstitutional).
    Right now, they are not. People seeking abortion get extra benefits. I am saying just treat everyone the same. You get the same leave as everyone else and the same pay as everyone else.
     
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    I guess you really didn't care if the members of the military were treated fairly and the same regardless of where they were stationed. And as such you really don't want everyone treated the same, since someone stationed in one state would have easier and better access to abortion services than someone stationed in another state.
     
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    If that was the will of the people, Congress would have the votes to make that a law. But that's not what we want. So, instead this is just a hostage taking to impose the goals of a minority upon the majority.
     
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    Someone stationed in California has better and easier access to surfing than someone stationed in Colorado, but I don't support service members in Colorado getting increased leave and travel expenses. I support all service members getting treated equally. If you are in Colorado, that means you don't have equal access to surfing. If you are in California, that means you are more likely to be in an earthquake. If you are in North Carolina, that means you have to deal with more humidity. If you are in Alaska, that means you have increased access to salmon fishing. We don't give people extra leave and more money if they love salmon fishing but are stationed at Ft. Knox in Kentucky. We give all of them the same leave and the same money, except if they want to kill their baby, those particular soldiers get more money and more time off.
     
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    What if a soldier needs surgery for a health condition that is best performed in a different state? Should they be granted extra leave?

    Or, what if a soldier has a family emergency and needs to tend to it in a different state? Should they receive extra leave?
     
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    I have no idea what the policies are. I assume they apply the same to everyone. It is irrelevant, because abortions are elective, not emergencies forced upon the soldier. In the event of an actual emergency requiring an abortion (ie, the soldier will die if they don't get an abortion right now), I'm pretty sure the military would just do it in their own facilities.
     
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    Pretty sure? There are currently facilities in states with strict abortion laws that aren't performing those emergency abortions
     
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    I can't find a single example of a soldier that was denied a medically necessary emergency abortion. In the event that such denial happened, I don't support it.
     

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