What @AroundTheWorld is not telling you is that they STILL think we are heading for another ice age - that begins in 100,000 years lol. They never said it was happening now.
I believe a significant number of Republicans politicians are merely playing politics with climate change, and as history has shown since 2016 with Trump, this approach could eventually turn climate change into such a poison pill that they will no longer be able to effectively address its impact. As I've frequently stated, even if you choose to ignore climate change, the new future economy depends on embracing clean, renewable energy. Neglecting this opportunity will have detrimental consequences, causing the US to fall behind, while countries like China take the lead. The current political landscape, with Republicans attempting to roll back everything Biden has accomplished for climate change in the IRA and Infrastructure bills, not only undermines the potential for progress but also leaves the US at a disadvantage if they succeed in doing so. This political maneuvering runs the risk of severely limiting our ability to effectively tackle climate change's impact while also losing to China and other nations who embrace the new economy as the engine for tomorrow's economic growth. Such actions could have far-reaching repercussions, ultimately hindering the US from remaining competitive and innovative in the global landscape.
It is funny to see conservatives now fight against solar and wind "just because" - why should they care about these industries? What's the logic in pushing back even if you don't believe climate change is a thing.
My understanding, which I admit is limited, is that solar cycles are pointing towards an ice age. This would happen on a geological Time table so yes it would be in thousands of years before it would be looking at major glaciation. What got climate scientist concerned back In the 70’s and 80’s was that global temps weren’t gradually coming down but rising and rising not over centuries but in a matter of decades. That’s why it appears that global warming is human made as it correlates with the increase in CO2 and other greenhouse gasses being emitted by human activity.
And again even if the science of Climate Change is bunk there are plenty of reasons to move away from fossil fuels and to renewable energy sources along with greater energy efficiency.
what qualifies this sugar daddy loser to speak on this issue with a larger platform than your average Joe? he wants absolution for his rich white guilt, but we are not obliged to humor him
I'm not at all against solar and wind, on the contrary. What I am against is the hysterical doomsday agenda mixed with socialist tendencies, and the silencing of differing scientific viewpoints.
I don't know about the doomsday stuff as that's a spectrum from truth to fear, but the science is rock solid that mankind is morphing the climate is in a way that's going to have serious consequences for life on this planet. To me it's always intriguing when people can't accept that and instead buy into the alternative "scientific" viewpoints that when dug into are far from scientific.
Lol, maybe actually watch the clip - he's saying that if you don't reduce emissions, 600 million more people will die of starvation from the consequences of warming's disruption on the food chain.
He also said the Arctic would be ice free in the summer of 2016 or something. I'm sure many thought the science behind that statement was "rock solid".
A. Not in that clip. B. He's not a scientist C. I don't recall any climate scientist making this prediction - I've seen that it may be ice free by 2050, but never as early as 2016 D. The science is rock solid. Just because politicians get it wrong or some idiots misconstrue things doesn't actually change the underlying research.
On censorship, the Governor of Florida has literally banned state employees from mentioning words such as climate change, global warming, and sea level rise. I think other Republicans have done the same. A reminder that ideas that aren’t accepted are not a form of censorship.
Since arctic ice was mentioned… Arctic Could Be Sea Ice-Free in the Summer by the 2030s A new study estimates climate change will lead to unprecedented melting in the Arctic a decade earlier than previously projected Summer sea ice in the Arctic could melt almost completely by the 2030s—roughly a decade earlier than projected—even if humans cut back drastically on greenhouse gas emissions, new research suggests. “We are very quickly about to lose the Arctic summer sea-ice cover, basically independent of what we are doing,” Dirk Notz, a climate scientist at the University of Hamburg in Germany tells the New York Times’ Raymond Zhong. “We’ve been waiting too long now to do something about climate change to still protect the remaining ice.” An ice-free summer, also called a “blue ocean event,” will happen when the sea ice drops below one million square kilometers (386,102 square miles), writes Jonathan Bamber, a professor of physical geography at the University of Bristol, in the Conversation. This equates to just 15 percent of the Arctic’s seasonal minimum ice cover of the late 1970s, per the Times. Previous assessments using models have estimated an ice-free summer under high and intermediate emissions scenarios by 2050. But researchers noticed differences between what climate models predicted about what would happen to sea ice and what they've actually seen through observations, according to Bob Weber of the Canadian Press. "The models, on average, underestimate sea ice decline compared with observations," says Nathan Gillett, an environment and climate change Canada scientist, to Weber. Now, in a new study published in Nature Communications, Notz, Gillett and their colleagues tweaked these models to more closely fit satellite data collected over the past 40 years. Using these modified models, the researchers projected ice changes under different possible levels of greenhouse gas emissions. Their paper suggests that regardless of emissions scenario, “we may experience an unprecedented ice-free Arctic climate in the next decade or two.” Under a high emissions scenario, the Arctic could see a sustained loss of sea ice from August until as late as October before the 2080s, lead author Seung-Ki Min, a climate scientist at Pohang University of Science and Technology in South Korea, tells CNN’s Rachel Ramirez. While sea ice naturally shrinks in the summer and refreezes during the winter, summer ice coverage has steadily been declining over the past few decades because of climate change. And Arctic ice melting accelerates itself—as ice disappears, it exposes more of the dark blue ocean, which absorbs more heat and leads to more melting. This process, known as Arctic amplification, has led to the region warming nearly four times faster than the rest of the globe since 1979. Sea ice decline could have catastrophic consequences that extend to the rest of the planet, including sea level rise and disruption to weather patterns and ecosystems. Animals like polar bears and seals that rely on Arctic ice to survive could be placed at risk. “It’s already happening,” Mark C. Serreze, the director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center at the University of Colorado Boulder who was not involved with the new research, tells the Times. “And as the Arctic continues to lose its ice, those impacts will grow and grow and grow.”
Solar forcing has been trending down the last 20 years, so that doesn't explain the increase in temps and models do account for it, and have ruled it out as a significant factor influencing the climate. Here's a good summary of the data on climate models and their accuracy: https://skepticalscience.com/climate-models-intermediate.htm
ATW loved his sources from Tweets. He is long gone. I had never heard of that guy before, but Googling did bring up the same article from 2019 which referenced an ebook he wrote in 2018 about climate models. The funny thing is, he is also the author of another book in 2022. Yep, a book on Covid-19 where this author, 'since Jan 2020, has examined an enormous amount of information, including scientific papers, reports, articles, data, videos, and more, and provided information on prevention and treatment that the author has personally utilized.' LOL Amazon.in
