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2023 Trade Targets

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Joe Joe, May 8, 2023.

  1. ASTR0nomical

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    I'm updating my apps on my phone.
     
  2. HTown2017Champs

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    Exactly. Cole finished 4th in CYA voting in 2015, then followed it up with two not as good seasons. I think we could get him to be more consistent.
    This. But it sounds like he isn't going anywhere.
     
  3. raining threes

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    And complains when they try to make moves to win championships during their window.

    These are the same fans that complained about Luhnow when he was building this dynasty. See: Drellich, Footer, Passan etc...
    LOL,

    What did he give up in those trades?
     
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    And complains when they try to make moves to win championships during their window.

    These are the same fans that complained about Luhnow when he was building this dynasty. See: Drellich, Footer, Passan etc...
     
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    LoL, what did he trade for those guys?
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Bellinger and Stroman would be amazing as long as we don't lose any core pieces. I would give any of our outfielders not named Tucker, Chas, Alvarez for the rental. Giving up Gilbert would be totally worth the added probability of winning big again.
     
  8. Snake Diggit

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    Left handed hitters on MLBTR’s list of trade candidates:
    Jeimer Candelario
    Dylan Carlson
    Cody Bellinger
    Seth Brown
    Tony Kemp
    Victor Caratini
    Alec Burleson
    Ji-Man Choi
    Jurickson Profar
    Nicky Lopez
    Max Kepler
    Trevor Larnach
    Yasmani Grandal

    Burleson or Larnach might interest me in a change of scenery deal if the other team wanted a minimal return (like a swap for Julks or a prospect return outside Houston’s top 15). Choi, Profar, Lopez, Kemp, Caratini, and Brown would be 13th position players who might be worth a lotto prospect. Houston doesn’t look like a fit for Grandal at this point. That leaves Kepler, Bellinger, Carlson, and Candelario. They would all be decent fits for Houston (Candelario would have to learn LF in a hurry), but it all depends on the cost. I don’t think any of them move the needle enough to warrant trading Drew Gilbert or any of Houston’s valuable MLB pieces (Meyers, etc.)
     
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  9. Major

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    Josh Hader turned to be an OK player. But I think the point was that from 2015-2017, people were endlessly complaining that Lunhow only knew how to manage prospects and didn't know how to make major league moves to win. 2015 didn't have a lot of complaining about the amount of complaining at the 2016 and 2017 deadlines was crazy.
     
  10. Major

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    The one thing the Astros (and probably Dodgers) have going for them is those are the most likely places Verlander would waive his NTC.
     
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    Astros get:
    RHP Mitch Keller

    Pirates get:
    OF Pedro Leon
    RHP Shawn Dubin
    RHP Brandon Bielak
    PTBNL

    Not sure what kind of PTBNL needs to be added, but I really like Keller, and his stuff is filthy. Bielak slots into their rotation, Dubin can be a swing man, and Leon is a toolsy upsider who has done better lately and may just need a change of scenery.
     
  12. Deuce Rings

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    Right, and that’s probably the ONLY thing going for them….
     
  13. BlindHog

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    Starters available in 2024
    F Valdez*
    C Javier
    H Brown
    J Urquidy
    JP France
    B Bielak
    R Blanco
    Available in season
    L Garcia
    L McCullers
    Promotable in season
    Arreghetti
    Gordon
    Kouba

    The 2024 rotation is overflowing. Unless we can get an ace or a #1 We are probably better off with a rental.
     
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    Keller is a pitcher with high upside who is already on track for 3 fwar and comes with 2 more years of control; he’s only make $2.4M this season. Hes on a team that is not undergoing a full rebuild so they expect to contend in 2024. If he is traded he is going to cost A LOT. Swap Leon for Drew Gilbert and Dubin for Arrighetti and that would be more in line with what I think their demand would be.
     
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    I have seen dumber... oh that's just my mirror.
     
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    Blanco is probably best slotted as a AAA stash. Gordon and Kouba are fine AAA depth but should not be counted on for 2024. McCullers should never be factored in again; too injury prone. Anything he gives is a bonus.

    That said, your point is valid: Houston has 7 quality SP in place for 2024 (Framber, Javier, Brown, Garcia, France, Urquidy, and Arrighetti), plus 2 arms that are out of options (Bielak, Whitley) who are probably worth holding some kind of spot for in the opening day roster.

    I think it is an easy fix, that if they do end up trading for a non-rental SP, they will include one (or more) of those arms as part of the outgoing package.
     
  17. lnchan

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    I have seen dumber... oh that's just my mirror.
    and that complaining came from the clubhouse itself namely Dallas Keuchel.
     
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    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    But it is a HUGE thing. No point in negotiating a trade if you know that team is not an option.
     
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    Rumors are Rangers lead team. Is Verlander a gun for hire as long as team as solid chance to play in WS or would he have loyalty to Astros and void Rangers.
     
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    Who do we have that the Mets would want for Verlander?
     

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