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Rockets sign Fred VanVleet (3 years, $130M)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 30, 2023.

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Do you like the signing of Fred VanVleet?

Poll closed Oct 9, 2023.
  1. YES

    62.9%
  2. NO

    37.1%
  1. CXbby

    CXbby Member

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    It’s like his opinion man, we are not allowed to question it.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    Is KPJ more naturally gifted as a player than FVV? Yes. He's a higher end ceiling player.

    That doesn't make a him a better pg though. KPJ has major issues figuring out when to jump start a offense and when to dominate the ball.
     
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  3. thegary

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    If you squint hard enough it is obvious to see that KPJ is Michael Jordan.
    Maybe even better.
     
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  4. hlmbasketball

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    Good analysis but I think the reason why his decision making as a PG is lacking is due to experience.

    Like with anything, the more you do it, the better you become
     
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  5. YOLO

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    This logic is just wrong.

    The more you attempt to put a square peg in a round hole, the more times it's just wrong. That's the stupid kpj is a pg logic. He isn't a pg, plain and simple. and he never will be
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    You can question it all you like, man.......but it is solidly in the they are about equal right now category.

    DD
     
  7. CXbby

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    lol you keep saying that as if it’s a fact. In reality you are the only one who believes in that. No other team believes in that, and the Rockets certainly don’t, since kpj won’t be starting as long fvv is on the team. And I promise you the Rockets will never, ever pay kpj $40m a year.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Neither was Harden.

    DD
     
  9. DaDakota

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    And I give two ***** about all of that because.....???????? why?

    I see KPJ as SGA - light.....don't know how high he will go but he has significant upside....

    We all know FVV got that money because of the circumstances of playing for a crappy team - not because he is worth it.

    It was a perfect storm - but I am happy for him......he got 2 years MAX money when he isn't a MAX player, and we didn't have to give up anything to get a decent NBA player who will help a ton with growth of our core.

    Here is my FVV prediction - he will play a lot early, and by the end of this year his minutes will be shrinking and in the 2nd year of the contract his minutes will be a lot fewer and he might even be traded....he won't get that 3rd year paid anywhere.

    KPJ could be any of the following.

    1. Starter at Combo guard
    2. 6th man
    3. Traded

    His minutes will start smaller and he will be finishing most games by the end of the year.

    DD
     
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  10. YOLO

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    Embarrassingly Wrong as usual
     
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  11. DaDakota

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    Dude he wasn't a ****ing PG when we got him he was a combo guard...he has morphed into one...I am sorry you don't like the truth.

    And embarrassed here? On and internet forum, you have got to be ****ING kidding me.

    We are all just fans here, don't really know each other, don't need the approval of ANYONE here to generate emotional or physical value.

    It is just a great place to talk basketball - and no one here knows more or less ball than the next guy, even if they think they do.

    GTFO here with the embarrassing talk, it's embarrassing that you value your INTERNET reputation on a BBS so much.

    And your user tag is YOLO - that is contrary....

    Sheesh!

    DD
     
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  12. Pistol Pete

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    You are delusional......
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Some might say - I guess - just gonna have to live with some saying that - damnit....how will I ever get over that....lol

    KPJ is a good player whether you like him or not. PERIOD !

    DD
     
  14. CXbby

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    You don’t give two **** about what any teams thinks, because you are smarter than all of them. If only King DD was running his own team of Dan Langhi and Donatas Motiejunas then we would have a dynasty.

    You can bump this post whenever you like, Fvv’s minutes won’t ever go down as long as he is on this team, because he is far and away the best player here and Udoka is actually trying to run a serious team now as opposed to a clown show running kpj at pg.
     
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  15. YOLO

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    Yeah you’re an embarrassment but that’s old news
     
  16. DaDakota

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    I literally just said we are all fans on here and no one is smarter than anyone else - I don't think that, and please stop projecting what you think onto me.

    And for the record, the Langhi thing was a joke because Clutch had written an article about how good he looked in the summer league - and I was being sarcastic as for DMO, I still like him as a nice role playing big who can hit 3s and work the post and was a plus on defense - why again, does that bug you? Why do you care about my opinion so much - dude, it is a basketball forum, we are here as Rox fans and we have different ideas on what will make them better - respect it or not.....

    Yeah, ditto on mine - and I am fine with that, without getting angry or saying you think you know more than others - why does it bother you so much that I don't agree with your assessment of FVV.

    IIRC you work in an agency with other agents for NBA players - which gives you a unique perspective for sure, but it doesn't give you anything more than an opinion about players molded by what your experience says etc....I can respect that is what you believe without agreeing, why can't you?

    YAWN...who are you again? And why should I care? I mean you do chase me around insulting me, must be looking for that attention get in here big guy, let's hug it out.

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    DD
     
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  17. CXbby

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    Because you are stating your opinion as if it is fact, when on the contrary, any analytics measurement or any other team in the league would disagree with you. But we know, you don’t give two **** about that (evidence), which is fine, just realize that is just a fringe opinion of yours instead of stating it like it is reality and acting like everyone else is crazy.

     
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  18. DaDakota

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    When I say, this is MY OPINION that KPJ is about as good as FVV - it literally means it is my opinion...what you are doing is PROJECTING how you are reading it in your own HEAD and getting all angry - again, it is a BBS, who ****ING CARES?

    But I do appreciate you at least taking the time to explain it......however it is entirely how you read it, not how I type it.

    And I don't need your advice on how to post - I will keep being myself and I expect you will too.....I am fine with that, we now have receipts about this argument....let's convene in 2 years and see who was right......DEAL?

    And fine you question it, I think it is solidly in the they are about equal - stand by it....sorry you don't like others having their own opinion.

    Now go get me a JUICE BOX !!!!!!!!

    (just kidding)

    DD
     
  19. CXbby

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    If kpj actually became as good as fvv that would be amazing, I would gladly welcome it. Reality is he hasn’t shown any signs of being even close. In fact the only player on the entire team that’s trending that direction (allstar) is only Sengun so far. Hopefully Jalen and Jabari get there too eventually, and we have yet to see Amen.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    Well, you have FVV rated much more highly than I do - let's hope you are right and he is Lowry part 2......IMHO if he were, he would have gotten the MAX from Toronto - both in years and money.

    DD
     

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