I agree, he did seem to be the easy scapegoat for a lot of people on here to blame. I agree he has a lot of talent to work with and was put in a unfortunate situation, they all were (I didnt hate Silas, it became clear we needed a better leader of men). Some people didnt level set expectations for the team, so they had to place blame. With a new coach and some helpful vets (say what you will about D Brooks) I think we will see these young guys play a lot better. I'm looking forward to it. I am hoping he takes to Ime's straight forward blunt style and doesn't start pouting and sulking when they ask him to play a different role or Ime rides him for a mistake. I was glad to see him show up to Ime's press conference, it was almost like he was saying, "I am ready for you to coach me and make me a better player (person)."
The NBA is a league where one player can make a difference in spite of bad situations if they're good enough. If KPJ were so good, the team would have been a few wins better in spite of the poor coaching/lack of system. It just doesn't seem like you understand advanced metrics if you think they all have to do with "situation".
I think you fail to understand how detrimental having two guys like Jalen and Jabari out on the court was to the team last season. I'm not sure there's any player in the league that would be able to overcome that situation given what roles they were given despite how terrible they were. Jabari was a 0 way player that was trash on both ends, Jalen was an inefficient one way player who was one of the absolute worst players in the league on defense. The combination of being the worst shooting team in the league along with the complete lack of defense from 3/5ths of your starters in Jalen, Jabari, and KJ Martin is one that likely wouldn't be overcome by ANY player given the handcuffs from the coaching staff forcing things through guys like Jalen and Jabari.
Lol what a ridiculous comment. Sengun, his own teammate in the same crappy situation, had better all around advanced metrics than KPJ. And now you're gonna come at me like I'm crapping on KPJ. He is at worst our second best player as of last year. He just ain't as good as FVV is all I'm saying.
Of course, no one is saying KPJ is that DIFFERENCE maker yet, he was 22 years old....and developing at a new position, I am saying he is developing VERY nicely and is on the way to being a very good NBA STAR player - not a superstar but a guy who may touch an all star game or two. And I understand advanced metrics very well, I program in them every day of my life, what most people here don't realize is that those metrics start with a flawed data entry point of human observation. Thus making the end data, MUDDY at best.....but most don't know how that all works, and would rather point to a spread sheet and go SEE SEE, not realizing how that spreadsheet was populated. DD
And that would be great. But FVV has already made an all star game and has been the second best player on a Raptors team that has been significantly better than the Rockets for a few years now. If you want to say "I think KPJ will be as good as FVV within a few years if he continues to develop" then that would be reasonable. And why we only signed FVV for two seasons.
I think KPJ is as good as FVV or very close to him now, nothing wrong with saying that, FVV is older and had a much better team around him....you can disagree, fine with me.......we don't have to agree...... I am not against the FVV signing, I think his leadership is more important than his skills on the floor......just think we way overpaid for a mediocre talent. DD
KPJ is on a Jordan Clarkson type of career trajectory, albeit with a tick better shooting numbers. (The only reason his assist numbers are higher is the role he was asked to play.) I anticipate he will have a similar kind of career to Clarkson's if he can keep his head on straight. FVV is a much better overall player. He's a similar shooter, better playmaker, and better defender. That's really all there is to it.
Kpj was given the keys to be the leader and engine of our offense. We ended up dead last in most or every offense category but it's too much and outrageous if we rightfully blame him for being one of the biggest reason for us sucking. If he didn't play pg a role he clearly lack experience and skillset in, he wouldn't b blamed as much, not that complicated. Wants the title of leader gets blame for the teams failure, not that complicated.
Look, FVV is probably your client, you got to pump him up - but come on man....your sarcasm is out of hand. But if you honestly believe that, you are correct there is nothing wrong with saying it at all....... KPJ is a better shooter, is about the same as a playmaker, and FVV is a much better defender - IMHO - the assists went down for KPJ because we traded Christian Wood a finisher away......FVV's assist numbers are not all that great he is a combo guard too - moreso than a true PG.....and he struggles beating others off the dribble he is a nice leader and system player - but I don't see him being a LOWRY level guy which CX said....not even close, IMHO. If I had to find someone that he compares to, a decent role playing Combo guard - who made an all star game - but not going to be a perinial all star - I dunno....someone who is a one off .....? DD
FVV shoots better from 3 and way better from the line for his career then KPJ, what makes KPJ the better shooter?
FVV's career 3P% is 37.3%, a mark KPJ has only exceeded once, barely, in 21-22 (37.5%). FVV's career free throw percentage is 86.9%. KPJ's is 72.5% I was being probably too generous to KPJ to call them comparable shooters--FVV is clearly more proven and better so far at jump shooting, last season notwithstanding (everyone has down years on occasion). Don't confuse him having a lower field goal percentage for being a worse shooter. He takes more three pointers than KPJ and doesn't finish around the rim quite as well due to being shorter. The only reason I think they might be similar is because I do think KPJ has improved as a shooter since his first couple seasons in the league. I'm not sure where you got the idea in your head that they could possibly be comparable playmakers. FVV is better by every measure. Career assists per game, assists per game in recent years, assists per 100 possessions, assist to turnover ratio, assist percentage, on the list goes. Any difference in the talent level surrounding him is more than compensated for by him having much lower usage than KPJ. KPJ has had the ball in his hands much more often than FVV has, and therefore has had many more opportunities to generate assists, even if his teammates convert them at a lower rate.
Everything you cited is skewed by being on a better team with a better coach and system. Fine we disagree....not changing my mind....and I ain't changing yours. And I don't care that you guys are all wrong. lol - jk. I like KPJ - think he is really going to be special - not sure why you guys struggle with that so much - why does it bother you so much? Let it go.....we can disagree.....it is like an opinion, man.... DD
Most definitely. No one on the team is a top 50 or even 70 player currently. I believe that Sengun was better than KPJ last year and I have them about equal overall, but neither of them are close to all star level. Hopefully that changes soon!
KPj is nowhere near FVV and doesn't project to ever be. There is nothing at all that backs that up. KPj is fine in what he will be this year. A bench sparkplug that can catch and shoot 3s and be a pest on defense at 15m a year. That's about what you need and if he does that to the best of his ability, he will be a winning player. Something he has never been. That's more valuable than a player like Jordan Poole for example who is basically less self aware KPj and an even worse defender. I'd be shocked if KPj ever starts again for a professional basketball team.
