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Reverse CRT: Florida Upstages Texas In History Class Teaching About Slavery

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Jul 21, 2023.

  1. cdastros

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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    It was the master that stopped it, she did teach him the alphabet. Easy Google. That's really the only point, its Frederick Douglas afterall.

    Dude was head of Civil Rights Commission under Reagan and Bush, I'm sure he is Republican but I don't think there is any ill intentions in terms of the curriculum. It seems to be a small note in a thorough history. Obviously if a skilled tradesmen became free, they could make money. I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and say the overall point is some slaves had these skills
     
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    The dehumanization that allowed chattel slavery to happen started with the slave laws in Virginia in the 1600s. The question of the ethics of slavery started with the free slave states around the late 1700s or early 1800s before the civil war.

    https://www.shsu.edu/~jll004/vabeac...ellion/slavelawincolonialvirginiatimeline.pdf


    Anthony Johnson was a slave sold into Indentured servitude. He earned his freedom and went on to own slaves himself. Anthony Johnson vs John Casor was a landmark case that helped dehumanize African slaves. You are right that all slaves were not indentured servants, but it wasn’t chattel slavery either during the early 1600s.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_(colonist)
     
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    Why don't you listen to the (black) academic who wrote that part of the curriculum (and who was head of the Civil Rights Commission)?



    It amazes me that you just continue to ignore this. I would be really grateful if you could watch that video and comment on it?
     
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    You don’t get my attention with your “people like MadMax” and “you should be smarter”. I listened to that already. Doesn’t change my view but I’m not really interested in conversing with you at all at this point and it has nothing to do with the substance of the discussion. I owe you absolutely nothing.
     
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    Never said you owed me anything.

    Regardless of your hostile tone, I actually respect you and always considered you a moderate, level-headed poster, which is why I am so surprised that the stated intent of the academic who wrote the curriculum doesn't seem to matter at all to you and instead, malicious intent appears to be assumed.
     
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    From what I remember, Douglas's point about the wife was that she was what anyone would consider a kind soul, but years of owning slaves slowly corrupted her into dehumanizing the servants.

    No kidding there were Slaves with Benefits. The whole purpose of Black History Month was to celebrate historical Black figures that weren't all necessarily freemen or civil rights activists.

    The phrasing is outright awful and suspect, but of course we got this manufactured Culture War (on top of every other BS culture war) that's turned into something more because no one in Florida's State Board of Education wants to change that line or the one describing "acts of violence perpetrated against and by African Americans."

    The latter is factual too, but here we are...
     
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    Thank you I did not know the first Africans here were indentured servants.Also I always understood the debt as something that existed in Europe not as debt incurred to get to America
     
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    It's so funny how white people demand or expect black people to act in a certain way about slavery. White privilege is all around us we just don't notice it
     
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    At best this is very poorly worded and just muddles up the curriculum. Yea aome
    Slaves had skills. Those skills were not taught for their benefit but for their masters’. Any personal benefit they got wasn’t because of slavery but in spite of slavery.
     
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    Bruh, you threw away any presumption of good faith discussion a long time ago. Deal with it.
     
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    Another hateful leftist.
     
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    l.o.l.
    AllTransWorld translation: truth = hate
     
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    Pure Evil.

    Am I right?
     
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    no
     
  17. Buck Turgidson

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    You seem to label many things as "Pure Evil" so I'm just curious where the boundaries are.
     
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    Someone being an ass on a message board doesn't qualify.
     
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    Slavery was done by both conservatives and liberals - in the case of the US, it was done by white men, who bought them as chattel from white men and sometimes black men.

    Greed triumphs empathy for many men.

    I would add that this seems to have been an overwhelmingly male problem and not as much a female one.

    Money and wealth is made over time and generations. Black Africans brought to America to not get this benefit and it shows in the statistics of black Americans- they have a host of issues that don’t plague other groups to the same extent.

    The argument that most of the world kept people in bondage, and that the US isn’t unique in that regard is true. However that does not excuse it. Further, Northern Africa buying white slaves in large numbers doesn’t in anyway mitigate the institutional issues in the USA.
     
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