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Kamala is no joke; will vote for her again

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Jul 2, 2021.

  1. HTM

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    That's just whataboutism.... surely there's a thread that that is the topic of the thread right?
     
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    If biden ever sat down and actually talked business and transfered money to Joe biden than biden 10000% deserves to be impeached and removed from office.

    The issue is there's zero evidence of any of this. Archer already testified in grand jury testimony with Weiss that biden never spoke about business to archer. We're talking about a hypothetical that doesn't even exist

    You mean 2 billion+
     
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    Just like the former administration illegally going into Ukraine to withhold aid was shady AF.

    The fact that the previous admin started this investigation illegally doesn’t give you much pause?
     
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    Just kinda shows some folks only care about wrongs when it’s the opposition.

    Biden doesn’t have a fan club in the least, nothing comparable to the man who said he could shoot someone on the street in NYC.

    Just hard for me to take the Hunter allegations seriously since it initially started from an illegal investigative that resulted in impeachment.

    Furthermore, there’s a lack of credibility by the conservative media after the coordinated election lies.
     
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    My wife comes from a tribal culture - a very old culture.

    She went to medical school, very well educated and bright - still the tribal cultures comes through sometimes.

    She thinks that about every 100 years the USA people should rip a corrupt President from the podium during a national speech and impale him on a stake in front of the White House..... that it will keep the next handful of President's from deciding to grease their palms.

    After seeing the last 40 years of self dealing from Congress and the President - and how arrogant they have gotten, maybe it is time to impale a stray politician or two.
     
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    Hunter is a scumbag who used his dad's name for money to help enable his drug life. Who's denying that? That's just a fact? Hunter is not a good person. We can call balls and strikes without being partisan losers.

    The issue on hand is whether biden ever influenced any us policy to help his son or did he ever profit directly from anything his son did. The answer to both of those questions is no. If there's any direct evidence of either of those answers being yes then I agree biden should get in trouble.

    The issue is there's no evidence and the right spins the same old false conspiracies. Bring facts to the table and not conspiracies
     
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    Whataboutism?

    The fact that Ukrainian energy company Burisma decided to randomly employ/pa Hunter Biden millions, who provides no clear value or skillset to the company should give anyone pause.

    Unless anyone can answer why Burisma would hire Hunter Biden other then influence peddling it's very suspicious.
     
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    Nope…. Sorry if Trump started this investigation by getting impeached over his actions in Ukraine.

    Why didn’t the Trump admin bring any charges during his time?
     
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    Hopefully your wife knows that med students don't have to pay interest no more on their loans. It will save every med student hundreds of thousands of dollars in saved interest. It's transformational
     
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    You don't think its suspicious Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company, looked out upon the world and said, "You know what, we need to hire Hunter Biden and pay him millions of dollars even though there's nothing in his work history or resume that supports such a hire" - Yea, totally, not suspicious.
     
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    It's the same reason why China issued ivanka trump hundreds of trademarks in record time while her daddy was POTUS. Foreign governments will do anything to buy influence. Hunter and ivanka both used their daddy's name to enrich themselves. I've never once accused trump of corruption during his time through his daughter. I don't blame trump for his kids using his name.

    The major difference is the saudis are paying trump right now millions of dollars to host golf tournaments at his properties. It's disgusting that their laundering their oil money to trump through his golf courses.
     
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    They didn't randomly employ Hunter Biden - just like companies did not randomly have Obama or Cheney or Bush on their Board of Directors - just like LIV isn't randomly having their event at Trump's resort.

    It is all scummy and it is something that voters should not tolerate - but it has been part of the political landscape for years - and unfortunately it doesn't mean it is illegal.

    Of course, private businesses try to get influence or prestige from employing former politicians or relatives of politicians.... the Clinton Foundation never would have been so successful without the fact that they were such a powerful broker in business and politics.

    The question really boils down to whether there is evidence that Biden did something illegal.
     
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    Sure…. But when Trump gets impeached over trying to get dirt on Biden in Ukraine….. kinda undercuts you.

    Again…. Doesn’t help your conservative media was caught coordinating election lies… which also undercuts you.

    And finally….You only seem to care about these misdeeds when it’s the opposition.
     
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    Hard to take them seriously after Trump….
     
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    So...does anyone here - other than @astros123, of course - believe that Biden cured cancer?

    @astros123 actually also believes Biden can walk on water?
     
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    I didn't say it was definitive anything illegal occurred. I don't know that it did. It might have. I'd love a thorough, genuine, investigation into all this.

    It's obviously scummy and opens you up to credible suspicions of corruption.

    It's not like George W. Bush's daughters were hired and paid millions by some Ukrainian energy company while he was President and if they were, I'd think that's sketchy AF and would lead a reasonable person to think there might be some corruption nearby.

    I don't agree it's anything like former Presidents being sought after.
     
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    I know doctors who are working on his moonshot program. They're investing more money in curing cancer than any admin in history combined. You should look into it. There's alot of really cutting edge stuff happening in the med tech space due to the funding from the CHIPS act.

    The goal is to solve cancer in his term.
     
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    What's a few zeros between friends? Yes it was 2 Billion. Sorry about that.
     
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