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Reverse CRT: Florida Upstages Texas In History Class Teaching About Slavery

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Jul 21, 2023.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Why don't you tell us why you think that is the case (and by the way, neither I nor, likely, you have any idea about whether Japanese internment camps or any of that stuff is part of the curriculum in Florida or anywhere else).

    Seriously, wtf are you even insinuating? That Florida educators want to say slavery wasn't bad? Again, that's just ridiculous.
     
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    They aren't trying to minimize that slavery was bad really, more that they are trying to minimize accountability.
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    What do you mean by that?
     
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    Kids should not be taught that there is any silver lining to slavery. You want to teach critical thinking, then talk about white privilege. If you can't do that, you sure as heck can't try to put lipstick on slavery in any form or fashion.
     
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    Acknowledge something is really bad, but put the blame somewhere else.
     
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    Stop being lazy.
     
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  7. AroundTheWorld

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    Where are they putting the blame? And how are they doing that by saying that some slaves developed some skills?
     
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    While saying they developed skills is troubling, it's not what I am referring to - it's the rest of the curriculum.

    When reading through it, it goes through to emphasize that slavery existed prior to the Americas and how it was part of world culture, then talks about white abolitionist groups and how American (Christian) values played a role in ending slavery. It certainly does read like, "Slavery was evil, but we just inherited it, and we were the ones who freed slaves."
     
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    Grave diggers. Some also learned rudimentary cooking, how to be prostitutes. Some also learned music and being a waiter/house keeper/butler.
     
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    African American slavery was an entirely new beast never seen before precisely because of timing. Peak slavery in America happened during the industrial revolution boom. That meant a population boom and more consumption per individual.

    Slavery for agriculture was mostly for basic subsistence farming and small farming for trade.

    The slavery African Americans experienced was at an industrial scale were they were essentially what gasoline is today for the Southern economy.

    I doubt a right wing curriculum would bring in context like this.
     
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    This isn’t being decided by Florida and educators. If all teachers in Florida were to round table on this - it wouldn’t be this curriculum and Governor DeSantis would not like the outcome.

    I find DeSantis to be a man that abuses his power and uses social politics to keep his political fortunes afloat. Having said that, he was elected Governor and if the people of Florida do not like what he is doing, they can vote him out of office.
     
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    Stop pawning this off as if it is "Florida Educators" that decided this. It is only the small group that makes the decisions about the curricula.

    I'm asking the question about why this was mandated for only the studies of people from Africa enslaved by whites in the United States.

    It doesn't seem like you can answer that question. If you can't answer that question, what conclusions do you feel are reasonable for people to reach concerning the reason this is the only instance where it is mandated to derive some sort of benefits victims received from their mistreatment, abuse, dehumanization?
     
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    I don't believe that's the lesson plan
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

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    You answer your question.
     
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    I don't believe that it is "a silly thing." To call any slave's experience a "silly thing" seems to me to trivialize that experience. I read the account of Moses Grandy years ago as an undergraduate and remember the impact that made on me at the time--including the impact Grandy's narrative had on abolitionists like Thoreau. So I just very much disagree with your "silly thing" assessment.
     
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    Imagine waking up today and being like “you know what… I’m going to defend the state of Florida today for attempting to whitewash slavery.”

    Guys… just because liberals bring attention to something bad happening does not mean that you just always have to make a case that something is good. Sometimes something can be universally agreeable…. Again that’s assuming you actually are a normal non slave state confederacy supporter.
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

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    Except that that's not happening.
     
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    This is exactly what you guys do. You can’t just say ohh no yeah … that’s a bad idea.

    You have to as step one tell everyone else they are wrong and should accept an invitation to debate every line by line detail.

    I’m not going to entertain that BS today. I’m not good to engage with your attempt to defend the indefensible.
     
  19. AroundTheWorld

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    Florida is not "attempting to whitewash slavery". You're so hysterical.
     
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    It's certainly IN their, as well as clearly tools to mitigate blame.
     

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