Rockets deal for Dillon Brooks (4 yrs/$86 million + incentives)

There’s more than just 1 stat that suggests Brooks is one of the worst players in the league in terms of offensive impact. And I would add there should be a distinction made between worst offensive player and worst offensive impact. There are plenty of worse offensive players than Dillon Brooks in the NBA. It’s that the majority of these players don’t shoot very much. So the impact is lessened.

538 RAPTOR Offense
225th out of 250 qualified players

NBAMath Offensive Total Points Added
522nd out of 522 qualified players

Bballref Offensive BPM
190th out of 190 qualified players

Bballref TS added (how effective were you as a player with your shot attempts compared to league average)
538th out of 539 qualified player

 

The eye test tells you that he’s horrible on offense, because he does nothing well. He sucks as a creator, he sucks as a passer, sucks as a scorer. The metrics back it up by rating him as the world or among the worst. The one i picked ranks jokic as the best abs brooks as the worst - that matches what i see.

 

Brooks RAPTOR ranking in 2021-2023- Offense: #109, #124, #225. Overall #108, #32, #153. So basically Raptor has him as below average offense and above average overall. I don't know about NBA MATH since just going into the website I can only find 2023 data.

As for listing 2 bref numbers I mean sure. But keep in mind that the Grizzlies paid 2 1st round picks for Marcus Smart expiring and Marcus Smart is considered a career below average player by bref numbers. So clearly not even NBA teams believe in them.

 

I see. It matches your eye test. I guess that's one way to verify the validity of stats.

 

I believe in data much more then I believe in the eye test since the data sees everything, the eye test doesn’t. I haven’t watched 82 brooks games a year, so the data helps back up the limited games i saw

 

Honestly - that's one thing. He sucks at creation - he has none of the skills to create easy shots for himself and has poor vision to turn those chances into shots for others. Ive said it before but Udoka's biggest job with Brooks is to get him to buy into a system where he (as well as guys like Tari, Bari, Whitmore, KPJ, etc) find the right spots off ball and make quick decisions once they get the ball to either drive to the rim, make one dribble and shoot, or pass it on to the next guy. Anyone outside of FVV, Amen, Sengun, or Green who has the ball in their hands more than a few seconds is likely not making good use of the possession.

 

I feel the Rockets signed him more so to be at least 2nd all NBA defense player as he was this past season, but with his deal he needs to make 1st team which is possible if he plays locked in and more of a Tucker role on other side shooting wide open 3s and layups

If he makes a all NBA def. team first 2/3 seasons and his grit/dog rubs on others the right way, then all is good, then Eason can truly take over and they can try and move Brooks after couple seasons

 

There is nothing wrong with that, but when you do watch full games its also stuff data doesn't showcase

I use 80/20 rule for eye test and data(20%)

Like the zebras missing calls on both sides, players tripping over each other, how shots are missed within the flow of the offense etc

Like for instance, say a player is 2/12 from field, and you look at box score/data and be like that player sucked that game from field

But if you watch the game and see he missed 8 of those with it going down 3/4th of way then rattling out you be like damn, can't shoot the ball more perfect than that, just bad luck type night

Or if that player got the ball back at 3 PT line with two seconds on shot clock and had to heave up a prayer/bad shot for 8 of those shots, that doesn't show up in the data, but if it does post some info on it

 

That’s why you look at full season and multiple season data, that way one random event won’t matter

 

I think Brooks negative impact on offense won't be that bad - mostly because the Rockets will still be brutally bad at offense

 

That's why you watch full & multiple seasons so you can truly grasp what is going on in the moment, then the data is compiled later and used by those trying to prop up their favorite player or tear down the one they playahate the most on

The data derives from playing/game film

 

...unless Silas is the still the coach and the last few months have just been a sick fever dream, they can't possible be as bad this year. I can see them being a middle of the pack 13-20th ranked team offensively this year. Might not happen at the start of the season, but I think they will get there in time. There is FAR more competence on the roster this year to help the young guys than there has been in many years in Houston.

 

Haha, they added a volume shooting point guard who shot 39% last year and a defensive specialist.

Unless Ime Udoka is bringing Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown with him he's not making them 15th in the league.

Keep dreaming. They will be very bad even if they improve significantly.

 

Alright so in summary Brooks is 2009-10 Ariza before he realized he's not that guy.

 

I didn’t say they wouldn’t be bad - I think they get somewhere in the low to mid 30s in wins this year. It’s a noticeable improvement…but it’s still a bad team. They can be better on offense AND be a bad team still.

 

Dillon Brooks will never be the bad boy that Dwight Howard is.

 

Grizzlies Were Primarily Motivated To Move On From Dillon Brooks Due To His Shot Selection

The Memphis Grizzlies moved on from Dillon Brooks this offseason and their motivation in doing so was more due to his desire for an increased role on offense than it was for any off the court issues.

The Houston Rockets agreed to acquire Brooks on a four-year, $80 million sign-and-trade.

"I think the reasons the Grizzlies were ready to move on from him are misunderstood," said Tim MacMahon on The Lowe Post. "The nonsense was kind of like at a point where culturally it was time. That was not the primary reason. The primary reason the Grizzlies were trying to replace Dillon Brooks for a full two years, repeatedly going after players that would have replaced him in the trade market, and he probably would have been sent out, was because of the shot selection issue. Dillon did not want to be a fourth or fifth offensive weapon."

The Grizzlies were linked with trade interest in a number of wings such as OG Anunoby and Mikal Bridges.

"Ime Udoka wanted him," added MacMahon. "He valued him. He's in Houston a large part because of that. It's on Ime Udoka to deal with that stuff and get the best version of Dillon Brooks that also creates the best possible scenarios for these young guys to grow."

 

Why you gotta talk about Nix like that?