Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

That seems like an entirely fair and valid challenge. Seems like Trump and his flunkies should be in jail or risk setting a dangerous precedent.

 

When keeping it Karen goes wrong.

 

Profile in Courage

 

Guess at who SC Smith is targeting or not ...

 

I would think the Michigan folks who signed the fake elector certification would be a fairly open and shut case, you signed off on it, not much to dispute unless your defense is he "was robbed", which isn't much of a defense..............I see plea deals for these folks. The wheels of justice should move quickly which means nothing will happen for a year and I am sure trump will promise to pardon them if he wins........he will want to pardon everyone if he wins.

 

No doubt. He loves those who will commit crimes for him. His vision is to fire anyone who isn't a Trump loyalist, including the Generals he wants to be like Hitler's.

Remember when he told John Kelly,
"You ****ing generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?" Then, when Kelly asked him which Generals he says, “The German generals in World War II. Those German generals were totally loyal to Hitler."

I think of a brazen and far more dangerous Trump if he avoids prison, and somehow wins the election. Trump is a Dictator/Authoritarian in the making, with a desire for his own personal justice system and police, and an end to term limits to stay in power. Would he put up Trump statues too? Hmmmm

 

When you start questioning if the paycheck was worth all the lying.

 

This dude should be the face of Q, albeit behind bars but he is what I think of when I hear anything about Q

 

I actually think about Michael Flynn who probably at some level has been the source for much of the claims made from "a person within government." He's the main culprit where he's really used his position and experience to manipulate millions of people to serve his position among this base as some sort of cult hero.... all based on lies of course.

And he also works for foreign adversaries of the United States as well which was proven in court, and elsewhere. How this guy is able to walk free among us as a known enemy of the US is crazy to me.

 

Remember that brief period of time when the maga's were all celebrating how he was actually innocent. Yea... good times...

 

2 Reasons It's Not Clear That Trump 'Corruptly' Obstructed an Official Proceeding
Appeals in the January 6 cases raise serious questions about how broadly the statute should be applied.

https://reason.com/2023/07/21/2-rea...-corruptly-obstructed-an-official-proceeding/

excerpt:

The Times suggests that a recent decision by U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth "could set a legal basis for refuting any attempts by the former president" to argue that he did not act "corruptly." The case involved a January 6 rioter, Alan Hostetter, who was charged with obstruction of an official proceeding and argued that he was not guilty of that crime because he honestly believed Trump had been cheated of his rightful victory.

"Even if Mr. Hostetter genuinely believed the election was stolen and that public officials had committed treason, that does not change the fact that he acted corruptly with consciousness of wrongdoing," Lamberth wrote. "Belief that your actions are serving a greater good does not negate consciousness of wrongdoing."

But in addition to the obstruction charge, Hostetter was accused (and convicted) of "entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds with a deadly or dangerous weapon" and "disorderly or disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds with a deadly or dangerous weapon." If "unlawful means is sufficient…to show corrupt action" under Section 1512(c)(2)—the theory that Katsas criticized in his D.C. Circuit dissent—those independent crimes were enough to establish that element.

Trump's situation is different. His "consciousness of wrongdoing" hinges on whether he knew he was getting bad legal advice from Eastman et al. If he believed their assurances, he lacked the "corrupt purpose" that the January 6 committee alleged. That's why Pence, who was the main target of the machinations that the committee described as a criminal conspiracy, says he is "not convinced that the president acting on bad advice of a group of crank lawyers that came into the White House in the days before January 6 is actually criminal." So even if the D.C. Circuit's broad reading of the statute is correct, proving that Trump violated it will be a tall order.
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more at the link

 

Trump had a plan months before the election, when he worried about losing. He would call fraud if he lost, and claim victory if he won. He pardoned his white collar criminal friends to join in on his lie spreading. This is the guy who said all mail-in ballots are fraudulent while he sits behind a desk in the Oval Office and writes his mail-in ballot to vote in a primary,

He is a cheat, a liar, and a fraud who would do anything to avoid being humiliated by losing to Biden. He never has been able to accept defeat, and any time he is caught in a scam or criminal act he makes himself out as the victim, and blames everyone else. He won't ever change, and will be far worse if he gets away with all his crimes once again. He knew he lost, and even at the advice of so many of his colleagues, he refused to accept defeat because his ego couldn't take it.

 

It seems like there are a couple of flaws in this argument:

The first is that there is plenty of evidence that Trump knew that he had lost the election. The argument then that he was acting in a good faith effort to correct what he saw as an effort to cheat him out of a legitimate victory doesn’t hold.

The second is that whether he believed he lost the election or not he should have recognized that the efforts to overturn it by inciting a mob to attack the US Capitol was legally questionable. Whether his lawyer gave him bad advice or not common sense would say that telling to people to come DC in Jan 6. And that it “will be wild” was a bad idea. While he did say once “march peacefully” when violence started that he not only did nothing for hours to stop it, put out a tweet during it encouraging it, and telling Kevin McCarthy while it was happening that those people cared more about the election than he did, showed he was aware of the violence and had no interest in stopping it. Even without a lawyer telling him that was a bad idea common sense would say that doing such could very likely lead to legal problems.

 

The Guardian drops bombshell on Trump, reveals that Atlanta Fulton County prospector Fani Willis will hit him with a “sprawling racketeering indictment,” and “12 other people” will be charged as part of Trump’s “criminal enterprise.”

But it gets WAY worse for Trump…

Because these are state charges rather than federal charges, neither Trump nor any other Republican who wins the 2024 presidential election will be able to to pardon Trump — so if he is convicted, he will certainly face a mandatory sentence in prison that cannot be overturned.

 

This is such weak sauce. All major news outlets announced that Trump had lost. Trump’s political campaign told him that he had lost. Trump’s DoJ and AG told him that he had lost. The judges in the the 60+ legal cases that were filed on Trump’s behalf told him that he lost.

Do you know what there isn’t? Any credible evidence that Trump won.

 

During the J6 hearings there is also evidence he himself acknowledged he lost.

 

Meanwhile trump continues to incite the magats …