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  1. basso

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    Democrats against gay Democrats
     
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    The republican party hit rock bottom. They failed to connect anything to Joe Biden. They disgraced the House of Representatives by showing photos of a private citizen having sex. Congrats republican voters.
     
  5. Os Trigonum

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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/irs-wh...vid-weiss-e052e714?mod=hp_opin_pos_2#cxrecs_s

    The Hunter Biden Whistleblowers
    The IRS agents are under oath in public. Will Attorney General Merrick Garland respond?
    By The Editorial Board
    July 19, 2023 at 6:43 pm ET

    With each day it’s getting harder to believe Attorney General Merrick Garland’s insistence that there was no interference in the Hunter Biden case. A month ago President Biden’s son was given a deal on tax and gun charges that probably means no prison time. Now comes Wednesday’s testimony by two IRS whistleblowers, who say their attempt to investigate Hunter faced unprecedented meddling.

    The two IRS agents are Gary Shapleyand Joseph Ziegler. Two months back, each had spoken behind closed doors to the House Ways and Means Committee, but Wednesday was their first in the spotlight and the first time that Mr. Ziegler’s name was released.

    They say the Justice Department interfered in their investigation, for example, by tipping off Hunter’s legal team to a planned search and preventing questions related to Joe Biden. They also said the IRS team didn’t have access to Hunter’s laptop and or the FD-1023 document in which an FBI informant alleged that Joe and Hunter each accepted a $5 million bribe from Ukrainian energy giant Burisma.

    Some Democrats, such as Maryland’s Jamie Raskin, tried to dismiss this all as normal disagreement between investigators and prosecutors. But Mr. Shapley testified that Justice’s “handling of the Hunter Biden tax investigation was very different from any other case in my 14 years at the IRS.”

    They were backed up by a new FBI whistleblower, a former supervisory special agent assigned to the Biden investigation. According to the House Oversight Committee, the FBI agent confirmed Monday that on the day he and Mr. Shapley planned to interview Hunter, agents were told not to approach him and instead to wait for Hunter to call them. The interview never happened.

    Mr. Shapley testified that at a meeting on Oct. 7, 2022, David Weiss, the U.S. Attorney assigned the Hunter Biden investigation, admitted to six IRS and FBI agents that he wasn’t the deciding authority. According to Mr. Shapley, Mr. Weiss said he had applied and was turned down for special counsel status.

    Mr. Weiss’s statements in response have only added to the confusion. Recently he claimed he never asked for special counsel status, but he discussed a potential appointment as a special attorney, which would have let him “file charges in a district outside my own without the partnership of the local U.S. Attorney.”

    Throughout the hearing instead of pressing Messrs. Shapley and Ziegler for answers, Democrats mostly opted for whataboutism. New Mexico Rep. Melanie Stansbury suggested the testimony was a political waste of the committee’s resources. “The real criminal, and the actual threat to our democratic institutions, is Donald Trump,” she thundered.

    The IRS agents who investigated Hunter are saying live on C-Span that they were prevented from getting evidence. The allegations are becoming more specific as the number of witnesses backing them up grows. If Mr. Garland and Mr. Weiss want to persuade America they’re telling the truth, they ought to go before Congress and do what the two IRS agents have now done: answer questions under oath.

    Appeared in the July 20, 2023, print edition as 'The Hunter Biden Whistleblowers'.




     
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    lol

     
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    If I was advising Republicans I would tell them that their smear and conspiracy theory campaigns are much more effective with a dense layer of fog and innuendo.

    Bringing Garland and Weiss in to testify will probably backfire unless they just want to yell at them for their 5 minutes and not let them talk. But even in doing that they still have to allow Dan Goldman and other skilled Democrats their 5 minutes to bring out the facts of the matter for the record in sworn in testimony.

    Republican conspiracy theories work best in a fog with a simple one or two sentence tag line that can be repeated over and over on FoxNews so that way when uncle Jim and cousin Jerry are talking at the church picnic and politics gets brought up they have something simple to repeat like “like oh yeah that Hunter Biden though… apparently he’s a communist.” Right wing propaganda isn’t improved by facts coming to light in congressional hearings by senior leaders who actually have the facts to articulate them.
     
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    It will be interesting if someone files a complaint that leads to charges...

     
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    #1869 J.R., Jul 20, 2023
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    #1870 J.R., Jul 20, 2023
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    well that's inconvenient
     
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    What he said is insane? Probably to the maga folks...................ya wanna hear some crazy stuff, listen to MTG talk about jewish space lasers, or gym jordan lying or any of the other nut jobs who use the pulpit for absolute crap

    But yea, stating that the DOJ, and FBI or IRS are part of the check and balance system is so out there :rolleyes: you have your sound bites from the right about weaponization and now every part of the government is corrupt.................maga never a good sound bite, no matter how much of a lie it is. No worries, the donald will come and tell you how he will fix it

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    These are obviously all lies, because Hunter Biden is incredibly smart. He is the smartest person Joe Biden has ever met.
     
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    who is the IRS checking and balancing?
     
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    You guys might want to read a little de Montesquieu on "The Tyrany of the Majority" if your hackles are raised by that quote.
     
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    all the news that fits to print

     
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    Scanning through this thread, still waiting for any concrete evidence that Joe Biden got a bribe. Lol, 94 pages of nada.
     

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