Rockets deal for Dillon Brooks (4 yrs/$86 million + incentives)

If Dillon is only out there for defense. Instead of on offense, Ime convincing Dillion to take less shots, should be Ime telling FVV to not pass him the ball.

Teams may just sag off of Dillion like other players on the Rocket squad, spacing will be bad, hope is defense is better, so every night is more of an old school dragged out kind of games.

And if there is an opposing player, who is playing dirty, you have someone (abeit an expensive one) to go tit for tat.

The defense around Green/Sengun should at least give better data, whether now how much to commit to the young core.

 

4 yrs/$86 million + incentives . . . . . .

 

Yah a good defensive player who is not a good offensive player is unheard of
Signed Dennis rodman

Or overstate it you know before he starts a new role on offense.
Bc a player can't reinvent their game to become significant
Signed pj tucker

 

Guess we shouldn't forget that Ja missed an average of 22 games the last three seasons due to a combination of injuries + doing dumb sh*t. Not sure how to find stats for Brooks with Morant on/off the court? Must be a way to get them without manually going through the game log, but maybe you have to pay for Synergy or something.

Of course, Tyus Jones is no slouch as a backup PG, but probably still not as good of a playmaker or as much gravity as either Ja or FVV.

 

Mostly Desmond Bane and Jaren Jackson Jr.

Would be happy to end up with either one of them instead. One can dream.

 

Dillon is a decent individual defender but Memphis was already a defensive juggernaut.

Hard pass, we would see how his minutes are distributed.

 

FVV - guard 1
Green - guard 2
Dillion - SF,

Guess would be him taking the SF spot. Although Ime preaches meritocracy, say in practice, Tari or lord forbid, a KPJ slightly outplays Dillion Brooks, I can see Ime still starting Dillion. For just biased reasons and that contract. The gap would have to be huge for Dillion to not get the starting spot.

 

Tari should have locked down the SF spot long ago, Jabari should have seen 5-8 minutes there as well.

Cam, KPJ, Green, Amen, Tate, Bari can all play the wing SF position.

Dildo Dillon is a luxury at 20 plus million a year, I am not that high on enforcers who make bad teams a below average or mediocre team.

 

Many people including me prefers Tari to start. There's the 'should' vs who i think Ime will actually play. Gm/coach will likely start Dillion unless the performance gap is huge.

Like many coaches, Ime will have biases including belief that vet guys can win them games.

 

About that, I do not believe that Ime would have a consistent team in year 1.

Most likely they will win around 35 or 36-38 games and it would be with winning streaks and extensive losing streaks, same we have witnessed the last years, just a tad improvement.

FVV and Brooks were starting to decline, I know they are not that old, but their game already at the zenith.

Just not so sure we got the best version of Fred for that money even.....

 

I think it is nearly 100% that Brooks will start this season, but next season I hope it will be less set in stone and there will be an opportunity for Tari to earn the spot.

 

By making layups.

 

Excellent. It was crazy when it was $80. It was insulting when we found out it was $86. Now it's just sad that it could be $90. My god, what an insane deal.

 

I don't think they will ask FVV to not pass to Brooks. The dude isn't a terrible shooter. When he's open, you should pass him the ball and let him shoot the spot up shot. What you don't want is to give him the ball at the beginning of the offensive set. He should play the Tucker role. Stand in the corner to spread the floor.

 

Anyone thinking that Brooks will run over Ime are sadly mistaken. Ime didn't take this job just to roll over for Brooks and let him ruin what we are trying to build offensively. If Brooks is most efficient taking C&S 3's then that is what he will be taking. They will limit if not eliminate his pull up 3's and 2's. It doesn't matter that Brooks wanted a bigger role in Memphis. That ship has sailed. In the interest of self preservation he will realize that he is best suited playing the Ariza/PJ role. And that's it. Or this will be his last contract.

I didn't like the signing or contract. But that's a different conversation. Ime has stated that he doesn't believe that our shooters are as bad as the numbers reflect. It's the shot selection. No one thinks that he's had this conversation with Brooks?

That one year that many here constantly try to downplay in Boston got off to an extremely rough start. The players had been spoiled and did not want to buy in to the commitment, discipline and sheer effort that it takes to become the leagues top defense. They lost a lot. But Ime stuck to his guns because he knew that his way the right way. He stood up to his All star/superstar players and they blinked first. For their own good. As they went from a middling 14th ranked defense to 1st in just one year. Personally that's why I believe in our new coach.

And you guys really think that Brooks has the pull to run over or even punk Ime and jack up 16-20 ill advised shots a game? Because he "wants to"? Come on now. The answer is obviously not. Brooks will fall in line. He's the 5th option in terms of starters. 6th option behind KPJ.

 

Right, got it

I'm not going to spend a lot of energy on this because ultimately I wanted guys like Cam Johnson or Grant Williams over Brooks, but I watched enough games to feel good about Brooks being a contributor to the Memphis success over the years. You may not feel that way because basketball reference has told you to believe that and yeah I guess I get that. Brooks is a very flawed offensive player, but it's more by choice than by him simply not having anything useful to offer. Brooks takes way too many ill-advised shots, but is a good catch and shoot player. To me, there's a few things that led to that and some were team style and some were because Brooks' ego. Two simple ways to reduce some of those ill-advised shots might seem counter-intuitive but run a few plays for him. No, that doesn't mean give him the ball and ask him to create for himself -- that would be horrible. But, understand what he is good at and get him a few open looks - catch and shoot opportunities. Does that mean we should run heavy doses of plays to set him up? No. Another way to help reduce some of his ill-advised shots is one of Ime's coach "super powers" which is getting players to make the play that leads to the play. That attitude also becomes very very contagious.

Ultimately that might not work and the contract is a horrible contract. But, we are paying Brooks mostly for his attitude (which is a double edged sword at times), his defense, his game preparation, and catch and shoot abilities. New team, New role, new opportunities to improve by focusing on what he is good at. I get your fear but I think it's overstated and oversimplified.

 

It really is about getting FVV to know when to pass to him. And to be honest, it’s probably going to take a good chunk of the year for everyone to feel each other out.

 

now that Brooks got his bag, at least near to his 'asking price' at Memphis org-25m I think, he should be more docile from this moment on

IMO he wanted to do more from his designated role just because he wants a raise, he may have thought that doing more would inspire the management to give him a raise

thought I read/heard from somewhere that the fourth year was given to him 'cause he waited for and gave priority to the Rockets until Stone got Lopez.....then the rest is history

 

It was slightly tongue and cheek / hyperbole. If the ball moves he'll get touches, just saying there's ways to affect who gets fed and who gets starved. There's levers a coach can pull indirectly.

 

I’m not sure how you can say it’s overstated when he just came off a season in which he was probably the most damaging and negative offensive player in the league. I also don’t get why people think he will completely change his game at age 27 after getting a massive contract. If anything, he will want a bigger offensive role and now that he got paid and validated, it’s what he should want. Players like him don’t change until they get humbled and are on minimums. Maybe after he’s bought out in 2-3 years or dumped, his attitude could change.