Brooks never averaged 20 ppg. Ya he does try to chuck shots. And he's got elite players around him to create better spacing and have them playmake easy looks for him. He's maximized his scoring load. The law of thermodynamics apply to the NBA. There is only finite energy. Look at Mikal Bridges. Went to become a volume scorer role and went from an elite defender and role player scorer to a negative defender and good volume scorer.
You’re dumb as shi+ dude and I can tell you never played the game before. Why u on this site bro? You know I was nice to your dumb ass but you ran your mouth like a bi+ch. You probably understand the least about basketball on this forum judging by the dumbass comments you made thru the years. Give up dude. Just stop posting dumb shi+
Imo you gotta do multiple things well to be a superstar. After thinking about it today, I would put Sengun above Jalen. Elite scoring and playmaking is without a doubt. Superstar, but we’ll see if he reach that level. Jalen can be star, but I don’t see anything above that bc scoring is the only thing he brings to the table
Thank the Lord, dude never averaged that, he did average 18 ppg in 30 games on 30.9% from 3 and then got injured one season.
Im ok with reading walls of text but they need to be relevant to the topic at hand. Why did you make a dissertation on how Green's scoring is superior to Brooks? Nobody asked for that nobody is arguing Brooks scoring is superior to Green in fact the entire point of Bobby is Brooks is a horrible scorer and need to be told to shoot less cuz he was crapping it up in Memphis. Look up what Strawman arguments are sometime.
Those jerseys suck! Nike should be ashamed of themselves for putting their name behind it. Literally 0 creativity in designing them.
Should put on a competition between the classes. Class of 2021 - Green & Sengun Class of 2022 - Smith & Eason Class of 2023 - Thompson & Whitmore The winners get to become the leaders of the team.
Another comparison point that occurs to me is those deep 80s Celtics teams with Bird, Parish, McHale, Dennis Johnson, Danny Ainge. Not as 1-to-1 comparisons with our specific players, just the idea that you can have a bunch of really good players on one team and make it work.
Yeah I think Jalen is the closest to becoming an all-star currently and Amen at least from a raw talent perspective seems like he has the highest upside. So two different ways of looking at it. If Silas wasn’t such a terrible coach I think Jalen could be on a faster track by now too. I think he was done a disservice by not being the focal point of the offense along with Sengun last year on every play. Let him create more off the pick and roll which is how guards take that leap. That’s really where we saw Devin Booker take that leap a few years back. FVV will be a great back court partner for Jalen and allow him to do a bit more hopefully. With Amen, who the heck knows but if he can defend you gotta find him minutes and see what happens.
You know it’s pointless for you arguing against something that you didn’t read or do your research on. So everything you say doesn’t matter really. The argument @Bobbythegreat made was scoring 20 ppg can be made by anyone with a high FGA and specifically mentioned that Brooks could do this given 18-20 FGA. If you read what I wrote which you clearly did not, the numbers don’t prove this nor the eye test. At Brooks scoring rate he couldn’t crack 20 pts if he played the same minutes Jalen plays per game which is only 3.9 minutes more. Scoring is about ability and the top players simply havd a higher scoring rate and output. The high FGA is due to the team using players with a high level of scoring ability. This is supported as the top players in the league with high FGA are mainly stars and borderline breakout stars with a proven ability to get to the rim. Now again if you simply read and be a lazy turd you would understand this. Really stop being an ornery dumbass.
Advice for your dumb prideful ass. Shut up and take your lesson when you’re wrong. Stop making up numbers or bold statements when you haven’t done the research and too lazy to put in the work.
Actually you are wrong and Bobby is right. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brookdi01.html If you look at Dillon Brooks' 36 min projections you can see he would have scored at least 20 pts already 3x in his career, 24 pts even in 2021. This proves his point if Brooks was given more PT to chuck shots he would have broken 20 pts already. Green has nothing to do with this argument at all so again your walls of text are irrelevant to this conversation. It's just basic logic dude if a player is given the greenlight doesn't matter how inefficient he is he will Crack 20 pts see WB, Iverson, Starbursy, Melo etc
That's only cuz he was given less than 30 mins of play time. If he played 36 mins he would have averaged over 20 pts already given his propensity to chuck shots. Not sure what your are trying to say, 20 is just an arbitrary number it could just as easily been 21 or 19. Brooks average 18ppg in 2021 and still had horrible efficiency at 51 TS%, and his most efficient season ever he was only 53 TS% scoring just 11 ppg. Doesn't matter whether he is high volume or low volume dude's a horrible scorer that's why I think he is one of the most overpaid players in the league.
I'm saying there is a maxamize limit to his attempts. Again, this is something Ray Allen commented on with how fans who never played serious competitive basketball perceive the game. He said the most difficult thing that fans underrated is how difficult it is to get a clean attempt up without being blocked. Brooks has that low efficiency while not being the center of defensive attention, having shots set up for him by more talented teammates etc. He's maximized the amount of shot attempts he can create. Jalen Green creates shots. In fact he creates quality shots because of his seperation ability. His low efficiency (still not close to Brooks level) is a product of him taking a lot of attempts within the last 5 seconds of the shot clock because teammates instinctively pass him the ball when the offensive half court set stagnates. But Jalen Green has the talent to create more shot attempts for himself.
