I noticed last week that 4 players from the class of 2020 (Halliburton, Ball, Bane, Edwards) signed what is effectively the rookie max extension. FWIW Tyrese Maxey would have gotten one but the 76'rs opted to kick the can down the road to preserve flexibility - Daryl's all-time favorite player. That means this time next year, Sengun and Green will be eligible. I think these guys need to show some progress next year to get to one. Like enough to get all-star consideration Otherwise I'd be happy to let them both hit restricted free agency and match if need be.
In general, I am a fan of using restricted free agency. It exists for a reason. Unless you have someone who is unquestionably top 5 or 10 in the NBA, then I think you extend early and often without question. Otherwise, I think using RFA is a good idea. As for Green and Sengun, I agree, it largely depends on what happens this year. If I had to decide right now I wouldn't feel the need to give either of them a major extension.
Man giving them the max would be really depressing from what they’ve shown so far, would need MASSIVE improvement to even consider it
Really? Like Ant Edwards and Green have literally identical stats and efficiency over their first two years. Sengun has a trajectory of somewhere between Sabonis and Jokic. So weird people are so dismissive.
Yes - but if they make no progress this year, then they aren't on any trajectories... I'm not sure, but of all of those who signed the rookie max extension, have they all played in the all-star game? I'd hate to throw a max contract at a non all-star
I love both of those players, but I am letting them go to restricted free agency unless they show a bit of improvement AND then give us a great deal on the extension. Though if they show great improvement, they are not going to be interested in. Even if Jalen Green was better than Anthony Edwards this year, I am still letting it play out.
Dude no one is saying that the current level they are now is the final product. No one saying progression is certain. Yes progression isn't guaranteed. My point is that it seems like people expect 19-20 year old Luka and LeBron level play or else people are disappointed. They've shown a lot for the context of their age and team situation.
Yeah. I agree - they need to show a lot more. The problem is that role players have gotten insane contracts as well... RJ Barrett, DeAndre Hunter, Cameron Johnson, (And he who shall not be named at 4 years $86 Million). Competent players are getting $20 million/year plus if they show upside with extensions. Haymitch said it well a few posts above.... Unless they look like a top 5-10 player in the long run, push them to RFA... of course, be prepared for lots of pissing and moaning from players/agents.
Stone gave KPJ an early, unnecessary extension. LOL. What if he didn’t give either of these guys an extension after amazing seasons
The regular font text is very reasonable, but if Green plays better than Edwards was this year we shouldn't hesitate to give out an earned maxed contract. Why even put it in Green's mind to start talking with other teams if he shows that kind of promise?
I know. Im just letting the market decide after the 4th year. If Green absolutely shines this year, maxing him out, is just the same thing as waiting another year and maxing him out then.
I'm not a fan of KPJ but Garuba and Josh weren't going to make any impact on our roster. Being upset about Tyty is reasonable.
Hit by the Silas effect yet again. We would know where we are with the development if Silas was fired after the trade deadline. An interim coach in Fat or Lucas; we had choices on the staff. Just a different prospective to see what is really happening. I know it was a race for the top draft pick but we are so far behind with what is on our team already. Look at Smith, is it growth or lack of Silas’s coaching.
The Rockets could afford 5-6 near max rookie extensions before pushing into the luxury tax (3 max rookie contracts + 3 $25-30 million/year contracts) - but, the players need to play at a near all-star level during the extension or you cap yourself out into mediocrity - like Atlanta, Chicago, and others have done. If you are paying the veteran max or Ultra Max, those max guys should be top 15 level players or you end up in cap hell as well. @BimaThug will know better than I but it seems like the hard cap (2nd Apron) is about 136% of the posted cap. Once you find yourself hard capped, it seems like the new CBA really limits your flexibility to swap out players outside the draft and $ for $ trades. @BimaThug could also explain whether the new MAX contract for a rookie resets to a higher % if the player is named all-NBA during the contract period. It seems like that may be the reality going forward. The MAX contracts could change from one year to the next on a rookie extension from 25% of the published salary cap to 30% or even 35% if certain conditions are met. I hope this previous sentence is wrong, but fear(from a cap flexibility standpoint) that I am not wrong.
