Trump paved the way for the Afgan withdrawl. He set the conditions and time table. You know this. Biden executed it as well as once could rationally expect. You keep leaving out important details to lift your demigod further up on the pedestal. Biden administration agreed to fund the Ukraine war. Russia is not a big enough threat to our country to justify killing hundreds of thousands of people. That is war mongering. Again, if Europe feels threatened, let them fund it. They can afford it.
Sigh. Under trump Air strikes were escalated and so were drone strikes. Theres this deranged illiterate view among the right that somehow trump anti war when he ordered as many air strikes than Obama. Trump didnt process a single SIV application for the afghan withdrawl. He was NEVER going to actually withdrawl. He would never have taken the negative headlines that he knew would happen. When biden got elected the military came to biden and told him they didnt even prepare for a withdrawal. Go read the washington post articles about the withdrawl decision made in March of 2021. They all took trump as a joke. There was ZERO preparation for any sort of withdrawl. If it wasnt for biden stepping his foot down we would still be in that scam which is afghan. This is why experience matters more than anything else. Obama got played and so did Trump. You are just incapable of winning a debate with me that relies on facts. All your conspiracies are always low iq bs.
True. The question remains - will the US hold onto its super power (empire) status in the next century. There is a non zero chance that will change in the next decade or so. After that, the odds drastically change. Hopefully as a species, we get away from it all together.
Come on... If the US falls from it's status in the next 10 years, you can assume the world is in dire straits and there aren't any superpowers.
What in the holy heck are you talking about? Who is the United States killing again? Be specific about what you are talking about. If you are talking about Ukraine killing Russians... maybe you also should state where those Russians are, and what they were doing (Spoiler alert..... they were in Ukraine.... bombing the whole country, kidnapping children, and shooting at anything Ukrainian that moves). ..... You also left out the part where the Biden admin for months was going public with intelligence that Russia was amassing weapons, troops, military hospitals, etc. in preparation to invade, and at the same time reached out many times diplomatically to try and convince Putin to not invade. That has been well documented, and was reported live at the time when it happened. You cannot tell the truth here because it defeats your simple minded narrative that "The US is an evil war mongering threat to the world, etc. etc." Yes... the US can be a threat to the world if the military power it possesses is used incorrectly, or is in the hands of a corrupt self serving autocrat. That's why it's important to never vote in an autocrat... especially a corrupt criminal one... which you have openly YOURSELF said here the day that Biden was running that you "Hope Wins." So you yourself are openly going to or have already contributed to the very threat and boogeyman that you loooooovvveee to tell people you are all high and mighty and righteous about. You are no anti-war saint dude. You have actively promoted the very real threat that is posed by the power of the US military (which again is the power of the US military in the hands of someone who means to overturn democracy which is the check on the military in the end).
We left Vietnam because Americans wanted out of Vietnam. We went into Afganistan because Americans wanted revenge We went into Iraq because out party leaders valued war profiteering. We left Iraq and Afganistan because Americans were tired of war and death. We are funding Ukraine because there was a huge sympathetic support for Ukraine. This will change sooner than later. The point being is when the Ameican population gets tired of the war profiteering, we leave conflicts (and the regions mysteriously become less violent). It's not because of some geriatric white night from a particular party.
We left Vietnam because our soliders were getting killed there. There was no "cost" that Americans were feeling with us being in Afghanistan. It was a silent war that was never going to be won because the taliban were hiding in Pakistan. We would never have gotten out if it wasnt for biden. Americans werent demanding that we leave Afghanistan. It wasnt even a huge campaign issue in 2020. This article talks about how biden made the decision and how the army tried to play him and fool him. When you read this you know the type of games the pentagon plays and why expierence matters https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/17/us/politics/biden-afghanistan-withdrawal.html If it wasnt for Biden being Obamas VP he would've gotten cucked as well.
We will be supporting Ukraine unless we have to send troops. We spend a trillion dollar on the military each year. Nobody cares if we send them a few billion dollars of stuff we are going to going to spend money throwing away anyway. It cost money decommissioning crap which is why all things are laying around. The only thing we've ramped up production on is the 155mm artillery, and Americans think we should have larger manufacturing capabilities anyway.
If I willingly and openly provide the weapon to the gang that kills some family, a court of law would hold me responsible. We are facilitating and funding this war. Stop being obtuse and pretending there is no blood on our hands. Americans have no business on any moral high horse. So kindly dismount. when you find any army amassing on any of our borders, especially Russians, ring me up. For now, I respect the treaty with our NATO allies. When Russia invades one of those allies, we can have a different conversation.
Absolutely. That is what doomers don't understand. Nobody on this planet wants this (sans a few extremist). But in a universe with a theoretical infinite possibilities, I suppose it could happen.
We are not at war. The Ukrainian war is not a war of choice for anyone except Putin. In other words, no one dragged anyone into the Ukrainian war except Putin. Asian countries are aligning with the US against Chinese influences in the Asian region. CCP influences there were mostly unchecked until after COVID.
The support for the Ukraine war is dwindling. The current debt to GDP is ~120%. If this rate continues, concessions will need to be made. And it won't be from entitlements.
I believe every single Republican president, except for maaayyybbbee Trump would have stayed in Afghanistan because the fact is, the US didn't really hold Afghanistan, and they didn't really have a hot war with anyone at the time. The US simply held the military base, and most of Kabul & the airport. Bagram was a military hub that we operated out of. I'm pretty sure (if my memory is correct) that Bagram was the base that was used to launch the Bin Laden raid outside of Islamabad. If you are a military person, there's just no way you want to give up that airbase, and the ability to have a fairly secure central city to use as a hub. What happened more than anything was a dire political situation where the leadership of Kabul folded, and got out of town to fly off on golden parachutes likely in the UAE or Qatar or whatnot. The US could have still stayed, but it would have meant more troops to secure Kabul, and it would have meant electioneering a new puppet regime. Again something virtually any Republican president in the past wouldn't have had a problem with. Especially since it was unlikely American soldiers would be killed... they'd just have to be there. I just get kind of tired of Afghanistan being oversimplified. It was a complicated situation, and very few presidents would do what Biden did. Yes Trump was also planning to do the same thing but in a more rushed manner, but I do believe that the Republicans around him would have been more likely to influence him to call off the evacuation. Trump should get some small amount of credit for at least planning to get out, but in the end he can't get anything close to the credit that the guy who actually did get out does. Yet at the same time those who want to give Trump credit for planning to get out, give Biden all the blame that "the way" he got out just wasn't smooth enough for them. Hacks. Plain and simple.
How Much Aid Has the U.S. Sent Ukraine? Here Are Six Charts. https://www.cfr.org/article/how-muc...gan, the,Economy, a German research institute. excerpt: Since the war began, the Biden administration and the U.S. Congress have directed more than $75 billion in assistance to Ukraine, which includes humanitarian, financial, and military support, according to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German research institute. more
I understand the calculations and return on investment. However, it bothers me if the US is supporting Ukraine solely in expectation of returns. People are dying out there, and I believe the US should support Ukraine to help them stand up against the aggressor. With that said, the US should have a strong say in shaping Ukraine towards European culture and facilitating its integration into the EU or other modern nations. The last thing we need is for Ukraine, once this is all over, to become a state that could eventually be ruled by non-democratic means. The best path to prevent this is through economic freedom, uplifting the well-being of the people of Ukraine. If the EU takes the lead in this effort, that's fine. I also hope that Russia will one day join Europe and become a true democratic country. If that means a peace treaty involving the US financially helping Russia to get there, I am supportive. EDIT: ps. The US turned out ok. The French might not have received much immediately afterward, but they helped shape the history of the world for the better with their support of the US revolution. So, in a way, they got much more in return than they ever expected.
sure, but it's not to me We have probably given Israel 3-4x that amount. We have probably given 10x that amount to the rest of the world.
we are spending that money to defeat Russia, we are effectually at war with Russia. If we were purely engaging in "humanitarian" aid, we would be spending $75 billion in the Sudan right now as well. https://www.state.gov/the-united-st...ssistance-to-sudan-and-neighboring-countries/
