Not bad. But Giants and Brewers are buyers so prying away good RP from them would require an overpay. Also I think you’d still need a rental veteran SP in case Brown/Javier yellow flags turn red.
You lost me at "Diaz catches 4 out of 5 days" That's when I stopped reading.( sadly) No way Dusty let's that happen The truth is this team needs pitching and everything you said regarding it is reasonable except Montero to the 60 day IL. I will give you the 15 day, but the 60 day comes with an extra roster spot that MLB will not allow. As for position players, a guy like Candelario would be a big help and I suggested him several weeks ago. But with Yordan's fraile physique I'm sure HE will be the primary DH the majority of the 2nd half. Remember Aledmys straining an oblique in LF last year? They will ( and should) protect Alvarez the rest of the year. That means DH not LF and Candelario would sit on the bench. An OF is the best option.
That's what I would do, but 2 out of 5 seema more realistic with a start at DH mixed in. If we're going OF, I feel Julks and Dubon can handle left just fine. If Dubon plays there more, Kessinger and Candelario can cover every infield position between them. I have concerns about backup 1B and 3B if Abreu or Bregman go down and Candelario covers both. Have no problem having one more versatile player on bench if Yordan DHs. May thinking was maybe Javier and Brown hit walls. If we can swtup rotation like this after break: Valdez Javier France Brown Urquidy You use Beck or Wilson for 2 innings which gets you to 6 innings and the regular bullpen. Then they pitch 1 more inning on an Urquidy day. Something like this to rotate: Valdez 7 Abreu 1 Pressly 1 Javier 4 Beck 2 Maton 1 Stanek 1 Neris 1 France 5 Martinez 1 Maton 1 Abreu 1 Pressly 1 Brown 4 Wilson 2 Beck 1 Stanek 1 Neris 1 Urquidy 5 Maton 1 Stanek 1 Abreu 1 Pressly 1 Then Wilson goes an inning after Valdez. You can limit the back to back days pretty well.. If they get 7 from Valdez, 5 each from France and Urquidy, 4 each from Brown and Javier; then there's 20 innings every 5 days for 8 relievers... Pencil in Beck and Wilson for 6 of them and now it's 14 innings for 6 relievers per 5 days.
I think MLB would likely look the other way with any significant reason. Maybe something is wrong with him? They can do 15 day and make 40 man work moving prospects...
There is no doubt that if Abreu or Bregman go down it could weaken the team substantially. I guess they didn't like Diaz at 1B so who knows who would play there - Hensley? Madris? Matijevic? I'm thinking Dubon or Hensley if Bregman were to go down. This would be a good time for 2022 Hensley to return. Aa for pitching. I think they need a legitimate SP. Hopefully one who can make a playoff start, but at the very least one who can he counted on for a start every week and 11 innings every 2 starts. Then they should look at ways to reduce Javier and Brown's innings in the 2nd half. Maybe a true 6 man rotation is not best, because that cuts a pitcher from the bullpen and they are all already way over 2022 pace for innings. Bullpen upgrades could help this team even if they aren't playoff calibur. Simply reducing Pressly, Abreu, Neris, and Maton's innings will help.
Why is it some on this thread dont want to try to get the best FA rentals as possible. Guys like Lee/Leon/Barber/Melton/Gordon/Tamarez or Arrighetti could net guys like Giolito, Graveman, Verdugo in trades. Look at what the Rangers gave up to get Chapman as a guide. You wouldn't have to give up Gilbert to make these kind of deals. Brown needs to make moves to try to win championships now.
Some love prospects to a fault... and won't want to part with anything of value for a rental. Some disregard prospects to a fault... and won't hesitate to give up anything of value for any trade that helps the team now. Some overvalue the Astros prospects/big league players... whereas other teams can easily offer similar if not better packages. Some undervalue the Astros prospects/big league players... simply because they're not sexy on the rankings, doesn't mean they won't contribute and provide value at the big league level (as recent history has echoed).
Still wouldn't do that deal. I think Diaz has potential to be a great player at the hardest position to find a two way player. I would trade Gilbert, but only in a package for an ace with multiple years of control.
The Astros could easily have said the same things 3 or 4 years ago and traded away Framber, Javier, Brown, etc and be rebuilding right now. Consistently trading for rentals is a good way to close your window. The Astros way of trading for the Coles, Greinkes, Monteros, Matons, etc of the world seems to have worked well for them. Why go away from it?
Yeah man- I wouldn’t do that deal. If Gilbert is a full time CF and yanier is a full time catcher I will bet whatever amount of money you want to bet that those two have more War during their club control than Robert has during his. Like- name your stakes and we will escrow the money. I had a Christian Wood bet for $500 along those lines that I won 3 years after the bet was made.
I'm not talking about trading away the top prospects. Look at least year when they traded for Mancini and Vazquez, or the year before when they traded for Yimi Garcia and Graveman. These moves didn't impact the farm in a negative way. I expect moves like those this year. Not trading away Gilbert and Diaz.
I'm not talking about trading away the top prospects. Look at least year when they traded for Mancini and Vazquez, or the year before when they traded for Yimi Garcia and Graveman. These moves didn't impact the farm in a negative way. I expect moves like those this year. Not trading away Gilbert and Diaz.
Gotcha - yeah, rentals for developing depth should be fairly cheap and a good use of the mid-tier farm system players.
Those years of no first rounders are going to start to catchup to us. Feels like we're reaching in the bottom of the barrel to land something of significance. I am not confident they'll get an impact player or pitcher, without having to part with Gilbert plus some of our Big League players. Afraid that if they do, theyre definitely shortening the window, but who cares if they win another WS right?
I do not think Ohtani will be traded but I'll take a swing at your question assuming he is. . . Many teams that are desperate to make the playoffs have better farm systems, so any of them including Texas could outbid the Astros so it may be impossible. Any deal would start with a young player or prospect (defined as pre-arb in my thoughts) who is 55 grade or better. A 2nd player will need to be at least 45, but likely 50. Then additional 1-3 players in the 45-40 range depending on the market and how highly ranked the 1st 2 are. I would say that only Drew Gilbert, and Hunter Brown meet the requirement for the primary player in the deal. Jeremy Pena, Yainer Diaz, Jacob Melton, Colin Barber, and Ryan Clifford meet the 2nd. then any prospects from 5-12 in rankings would work as fill ins. an offer of Jeremy Pena, Drew Gilbert and 1-2 other top 12 prospects would be a string offer but I think other teams will still outbid it, especially Baltimore, Texas, and Arizona. If the team had a guarantee he would resign, then it may be worth the cost to trade for him. But without that, his price is just not worth it in the long run. particularly because that cost would be ridiculous. Too many teams have more 50 or higher grade prospects they can include in a deal and are more desperate. For example the Rangers have 11 prospects rated 50 or higher and 9 rated at 45. The Astros have 4 ( the 4 I have mentioned) and 8 respectively.
After tonight trade season begins! My gut feeling. -Leon, Lee, pitching prospect for a #3-4 SP. -1 of Chas, Jake, Julks & Whitley(why not) for relief pitching maybe a catcher if dusty is set on Maldy, and DHing Diaz for the stretch/playoffs. Overall it won’t be spectacular and they’ll hope the team gets healthy and stays it.
Who do you think they're looking at trading for? If they go the rental route there's deals to be made. Example: if the Rangers trade for Giolito, the Stros certainly have enough to trade for Lynn.
