KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

That's my hope. The point I was making is IF Green doesn't improve on defense they will turn to Porter.

Green needs to understand he's not the franchise player. That's something you earn. I hope he responds to a much different environment.

 

That's incorrect... it's about 21 months.

You don't get extra points for nasty....

 

Sure, if he was an elite offensive player and not projecting he will be.

I think they got players who are better on defense than offense because we have so few... especially in the backcourt....

Do you think there's something wrong with making Jalen earn his minutes?

 

It's interesting that KPJ is still saying all this "twin" stuff, but in reality, Porter and Green should be competing for minutes, hard.

 

No I think there is something wrong in singling out Jalen as some player that you need to have an entire defensive team around him to "compensate".

Jalen like any other player in this squad should earn their minutes. No one is saying otherwise.

 

Only one of these two players has the tools to be ELITE offensively - Green... and he is just beginning to unlock the skills to capitalize on his elite athleticism.

Though KPJ is still young, I wouldn't be surprised if his offensive game grows very little from this point on as his game is a bit more polished and he is definitely a more consistent shooter than Jalen.

They are both Rockets, so will be happy with either having a breakout year, but when comparing the two players I completely understand why the Rockets, analysts, and just about everyone else see's Jalen as the future at the 2-guard position for this team.

As far as the defense. The entire team was a defensive nightmare at several points last season, but only one player was seen intentionally giving up and not getting back on defense or having the wrong attitude (on the court no less) - KPJ



Like I said, both are Rockets, so will root for both this upcoming season, but when comparing the two at least try to be objective.

 

This year the team roster is stacked with talent.

KPJ better show up, not only show up but lead the 2nd lineup.

 

I see some good takes and some bad ones in here, but I'm still confused on why this dude garners 300 pages of replies.

 

A lot of guys have had the tools to be elite offensively. Most of them are out of the league after a few years.

The only way you stick around as a one way player is to be so good on that end it's worth building around you to cover up for it.

Green isn't that yet....

Stop pretending potential is certainty...

 

The Jalen Only Fans being insecure about a possible alternative should Jalen fail....

 

Correct....

Neither are finished products and act professional...

I'd be fine replacing both of them if they aren't responding to Udoka this season...

 

That's kind of an odd take given that KPJ is a MUCH better shooter, has a better handle, has a wider range of tolls in his bag, can reliably create for others......and he's one of the more athletic players on the team.

With Green you just have athleticism....and that's the guy you think has the tools to be ELITE offensively? LOL, okay...then why hasn't he even been good offensively yet?

I get that he's made some highlights, and as a mindless chucker he's compiled some highly inefficient numbers, but those aren't the things that make a player good.

 

This is the part I don't get, in a previous post you insinuated that Jalen is a knucklehead. Now you're saying that he is unprofessional. Did I miss something? When has Jalen been unprofessional or a knucklehead when it comes to the team or his performance on the court?

I certainly hope that you are not referring to the now infamous 'dry humping' incident. If we are judging people's professionalism based on antics that they do when in private or hanging out with friends, then I'm sure several of the folks in this forum could be considered "unprofessional".

Let's be clear, only one of the two players has been unprofessional where it comes to this team or his previous team and even displayed an unprofessional attitude on the court.

Does that mean I'm ready to give up on him? Heck no, he has too much talent and is on a decent contract.

But I'm also not going to ignore the incidents when analyzing\comparing players competing for minutes.

 

He’s making sh*t up because he has a hate boner for Jalen.

 

Not just antics done privately.... Antics done privately when they were high school aged kids. At the end of the day, the people obsessed with the Green humping video are obsessed with seeing a pair of underage teenage boys goofing around sexually which is creepy... For the people obsessed with it.

 

KPJ is a fine player but the experiment of putting him at PG and trying to let him run the show clearly failed. He's now back to the role that he should be fine in, which is a backup wing (or if he starts the 4th or 5th option) and play more off ball. Hopefully he'll show himself to be capable in this more limited role cause if not, Whitmore look like he'll be ready for this job maybe as soon as next year.

 

That's really what this whole thing is about. Their guy has underperformed the 2 years since being drafted and there's another young guard on the team that is better than their guy at essentially everything and they are worried that at some point roles and minutes will be handed out based on merit rather than draft position....and they know that'll be the end for their guy as a starter in this league.

He's not a good shooter, he's not someone you can rely on for efficient shot creation for himself or others, he lacks both the interest and ability to play any defense whatsoever....at some point the whole "he runs fast and jumps high" bit just isn't enough. The only questions are if he eventually develops his game at all....and if he doesn't, how long will he just be given a starting role and starters minutes based on where he was drafted?

I know Udoka lied about no longer just handing those things out and that they'd be earned, and that lie made everyone really happy for a while, but since then it's become clear that he didn't actually mean it given that he's already started just giving people those things without having them earn it.

 

Potential is just that, until it is realized. All I said is that Jalen has more potential than KPJ and clearly (by draft status and other indications), the Rockets and others agree. He has already shown enough ability as a scorer, if he takes steps defensively and improves his efficiency then I have no doubt that the Rockets will extend him (maybe at max). I think KPJ's contract tells you what the Rockets think of KPJ's potential.. was that a max contract?

 

LOL, what a brilliant basis for that claim.

 

It didn't fail. It got us Amen.